Junkyard Dog Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I'm starting to think that Benning already has Virtanen penciled-in for the team. I think they'll let him play until December and then send him to WJC and then back to junior before the important 40 game mark. Which may be the best course of action. I am still strongly in the camp that another year of junior would be better for his development. I've always thought Virtanen is the type of player we take our time with. Yeah Horvat made our team at 19 but Horvat is a special player with important qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nergish Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've always thought Virtanen is the type of player we take our time with. Yeah Horvat made our team at 19 but Horvat is a special player with important qualities. Nah. Jake is not as mature or intelligent as Bo, but he's a man child too. Also, IMO, itheres no such thing as "rushing" a prospect unless you're a bottom feeder expecting the kid to be your saviour, or a contender that traded somebody away to slot the kid in the lineup. There is absolutely NO pressure on Jake Virtanen this year - if he can't produce, nobody's gonna want his head. The kid just needs to play like a man, hit everything in sight, play hard/smart, and show us his world-class shot on occasion... and voila, he's a Vancouver Canuck. Bo had far more pressure on him in that, before he emerged, we were scared that none of our current prospects would ever make the jump and become legitimate NHL players. Bo has set off a new movement in Vancouver, and was the perfect player to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Lucic is a proven winner and a force physically but we don't want him cause he plays mean.... Some of you guys sound like you missed our series against cow town. The first run that Ferland took would have been his last. Lucic would have dealt with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The first run that Ferland took would have been his last. Lucic would have dealt with him.Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The first run that Ferland took would have been his last. Lucic would have dealt with him.Haha so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The first run that Ferland took would have been his last. Lucic would have dealt with him. Agreed Haha so true. I really don't understand all this talk about Ferland. He had a good 4 games against the Canucks. This guy isn't even necessarily going to turn into an NHLer and if he does, I find it extremely unlikely he'll turn into anything more than a fourth liner. I've never seen so much attention by CDC on a fourth liner prospect of a division rival. There are so many other good, established, players to worry about. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I really don't understand all this talk about Ferland. He had a good 4 games against the Canucks. This guy isn't even necessarily going to turn into an NHLer and if he does, I find it extremely unlikely he'll turn into anything more than a fourth liner. I've never seen so much attention by CDC on a fourth liner prospect of a division rival. There are so many other good, established, players to worry about. He wouldn't be running around charging at our guys if we had some actual tough players. Didn't say anything about him being a good hockey player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 I really don't understand all this talk about Ferland. He had a good 4 games against the Canucks. This guy isn't even necessarily going to turn into an NHLer and if he does, I find it extremely unlikely he'll turn into anything more than a fourth liner. I've never seen so much attention by CDC on a fourth liner prospect of a division rival. There are so many other good, established, players to worry about. Do you remember the Final in 2011? Who was the guy Boston brought in after game two, who changed the tone? Was his name Thornton? Anyway, we did not have an answer for the guy. Sometimes, you need the nuclear deterrent. Big Milan would be that guy for us. My guess is the Teins would love to have him on their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Lucic is a proven winner and a force physically but we don't want him cause he plays mean.... Mean is fine. Punk is not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Do you remember the Final in 2011? Who was the guy Boston brought in after game two, who changed the tone? Was his name Thornton? Anyway, we did not have an answer for the guy. Sometimes, you need the nuclear deterrent. Big Milan would be that guy for us. My guess is the Teins would love to have him on their side. Haha, I really don't think you are referring to Shawn Thornton, because he was pretty much a non-factor in that series and not remotely a tone changer. Yes, sure we could be a tougher team. But the use of Ferland as counterpoint to our team toughness is just ludicrious. This guy is a fringe NHLer. The Canucks have much bigger problems than team toughness. Anyway didn't Benning bring in those two short enforcers (Dorsett and Prust) to add team toughness? I'm sure that will end up being a great decision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Haha, I really don't think you are referring to Shawn Thornton, because he was pretty much a non-factor in that series and not remotely a tone changer. So many people point to that as the factor that changed the series. Hamhuis going down with injury and Rome rallying the Bruins by taking out Horton had way more of an impact. Him coming in was nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic 8-Ball Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Lucic is slow, has hands of stone. We don't need caveman hockey. What is he going to teach Virtanen? How to spear a player in the pills from behind? run a few goalies? miss open nets? If he was any good, he'd still be in Boston. Just like that Seguin guy, eh? Or that Hamilton.. Edited August 22, 2015 by Magic 8-Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 So many people point to that as the factor that changed the series. Hamhuis going down with injury and Rome rallying the Bruins by taking out Horton had way more of an impact. Him coming in was nothing. Not how I remembered that series. The entire 4th line of the Bruins played great. They were going two deep on the forecheck and hitting the Van defense a lot, generated many o-zone turnovers. They were not the only reason the Bruins came back but they had a big role in doing so. Also they were a big reason why Gillis rethought his long term team identity and decided to go bigger. Ferlund became the focus of the physical defeat by the Canucks but he was not unique to the Flames. Pretty much every Flame was finishing their check. Any scrum had every Flame in the mix. Canuck response was tentative as they probably thought their superior talent would answer the call. Didn't happen. For the Sbisa naysayers I thought one of his best games as a Canuck was in the Flame playoff series. He tried playing a physical game and the Flames came at him big time. At one point two Flames jumped him and the other 4 Canucks on the ice simply watched. Same thing used to happen with Rypien. This past season Dorsett suffered the same treatment. Benning is bringing players in who will change this culture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 The first run that Ferland took would have been his last. Lucic would have dealt with him. But he's mean to other players, and we only want to win with nice players on our team - People Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Not how I remembered that series. The entire 4th line of the Bruins played great. They were going two deep on the forecheck and hitting the Van defense a lot, generated many o-zone turnovers. Vancouver's defense was a mess at that point though. No Hamhuis and no Rome meant that AV had to shuffle up his D pairs and slot in Ballard who hadn't played that much. The turnovers came from our D just being lost more than it had to do with their fourth line. Every team that makes it to the finals has a really good fourth line. They didn't do anything special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Anyone go meet him today at Abbotsford Chrysler? How were his facial expressions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 So many people point to that as the factor that changed the series. Hamhuis going down with injury and Rome rallying the Bruins by taking out Horton had way more of an impact. Him coming in was nothing. Tim Thomas was the biggest factor. We outshot them but he was absolutely incredible. Even with hammer in the lineup I still don't think we score on Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutesi Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Just like that Seguin guy, eh? Or that Ham Boom.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggs50 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 But he's mean to other players, and we only want to win with nice players on our team - PeopleI hate those soft little nerdy people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock Cousteau Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Anyone go meet him today at Abbotsford Chrysler? How were his facial expressions?I'm guessing something like this, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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