Sean Monahan Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I agree with you that the Lupul headhunt should have been suspended. The bottom line was clear and malicious intent - and the result was in fact a head shot - it just so happens it was wreckless enough that he wound up throwing the elbow into a team-mates mug. Regardless, the point is to get these chickensh!t cheapshots out of the game - so whethere it was the intent or the result, Lupul clearly intended to throw a headshot and wound up doing so no matter how comical the fail was. That should certainly come into play if he faces a suspension in the future. That's exactly what I've been thinking for a couple of years now. I'd say the game has improved quite a bit over the last couple of years (coincidentally in the time guys like Cooke cleaned up) but in those years between the lockouts it wasn't uncommon to watch a game and see somebody take a vicious run at a player but miss and receive no punishment. The game is cleaning up but if they really wanna stop the cheap shots they'll punish intent as well. This may get arbitrary in some cases but in the case of the Lupul miss, he was very clearly throwing an elevated elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Classless play. Classless player. Classless team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Don't think it was malicious but the kid just doesn't know how to throw a hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Should be 5+ games, but as usual the DOPS will likely just give him 1 or 2. And as for intent, there might be some grey areas but they should certainly try to punish it. They can do it for embellishment, so at least start giving out fines for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 That wasn't intentional. He tried to squeeze by him when he couldn't stop. He was checking to see if Fraser was alright after the hit. Unfortunate situation, but should probably still be a slap on the wrist like a fine or a 1 game reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 That wasn't intentional. He tried to squeeze by him when he couldn't stop. He was checking to see if Fraser was alright after the hit. Unfortunate situation, but should probably still be a slap on the wrist like a fine or a 1 game reminder. You don't throw up the chicken wing to "squeeze by" somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 The fact that the Leafs themselves recently disciplined him is not going to help him imo. Another fact here - Kadri is in the top 5 in the league in penalties drawn. He rides the line of agitating, playing borderline hockey, and having an X on his back as a result - this kind of cheap shot and his selective "toughness" is exactly why. He has gotten a lot of calls and protection from officials - but that is something that should probably come to an end. His game definitely borders on "rat" - and he might want to take notice that there aren't a lot of guys with names like Orr or McLaren left on the Leafs roster. The league should send a strong and clear message imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I think the bigger punishment would be no suspension; force him to play on that terrible team. this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 I'd say give em 5 games, but at this point is that a punishment or a nice vacation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 The fact that the Leafs themselves recently disciplined him is not going to help him imo. Another fact here - Kadri is in the top 5 in the league in penalties drawn. He rides the line of agitating, playing borderline hockey, and having an X on his back as a result - this kind of cheap shot and his selective "toughness" is exactly why. He has gotten a lot of calls and protection from officials - but that is something that should probably come to an end. His game definitely borders on "rat" - and he might want to take notice that there aren't a lot of guys with names like Orr or McLaren left on the Leafs roster. The league should send a strong and clear message imo. The problem is that Shanny just came out of DOPS and it's the Leafs. Lupul is another sneaky borderline rat, probably trained Kadri in the fine art of chicken wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 @SNHockeyCentral: Repeat offender Nazem Kadri delivers concussion, suspended four games: http://t.co/B5kfX34JmX @sportsnet lol @ TO, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsedin33 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Kadris theme song should be 'Oops I did it again' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Kadris theme song should be 'Oops I did it again' More like I'm a Loser by Beck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Trivia Only Player to have been suspended by both Brendan Shanahan and Stephane Quintal in the same season. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So... = 4 game suspension = 2 minute "Illegal Check to Head" penalty Yep, DoPS, that makes it very clear for the players (and fans!) what is and isn't allowed or suspension worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So he got 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetica Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So he got 4? Yep. http://www.tsn.ca/kadri-suspended-four-games-for-hit-on-oilers-fraser-1.234056 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted March 18, 2015 Author Share Posted March 18, 2015 DoPS is soft. 4 is the absolute minimum they could get away with. Shanahan patronage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davitch Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 So... = 4 game suspension = 2 minute "Illegal Check to Head" penalty This! I wonder if Matthias had stayed down, the league would have looked at that hit? I remember being thankful at the time the refs even saw Ribeiro's headshot hoping it would get a further look. I get the whole bigger, faster, stronger argument, but does anyone get the feeling that if this had happened ten years ago Fraser wouldn't have stayed down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted March 18, 2015 Share Posted March 18, 2015 This! I wonder if Matthias had stayed down, the league would have looked at that hit? I remember being thankful at the time the refs even saw Ribeiro's headshot hoping it would get a further look. I get the whole bigger, faster, stronger argument, but does anyone get the feeling that if this had happened ten years ago Fraser wouldn't have stayed down? They might be stronger nowadays, but I wouldn't say tougher at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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