bigbadcanucks Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Good and fair signing. What the $4.45M says to me is that both the Canucks and Tanev's camp have a realistic view of Tanev's relative place among the top defencemen in the NHL, which is, both sides view him as an elite defensive d-man but has limitations to his offensive game, and a ceiling on his physicality and durability. He can play with any partner and makes them better. If he can put on another 10 pounds and get to 204 lbs. without giving up any speed, it would help with his durability...and if he can continue to develop his shot and puck handling skills on the offensive blue line, his $4.45M AAV will look like a steal. The Canucks are a better team with Tanev in the line up, so I'm glad that the deal got done ahead of July 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 That is a really great cap hit for Tanev! Good job getting him locked in at a reasonable rate for a long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Tanev's underlying number are pretty much league tops. He's a really intelligent dman and does all the small things which go unnoticed by most. Just the fact he can play beside anyone and make for a safe pairing is real good to know. He's made Edler a functional dman again.I was willing to accept the contract without all the bloated 'best in all hockey' reasoning. I doubt he's impacted Edler more than Edler's own self-improvement and of course the coaching change did, but with Hamhuis and Bieksa UFA status coming, Benning had no choice but to keep the only other top-4 capable defenseman in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyking Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 He's among a few. As far as impact to a team goes, I'd say he's up there with Suter, Boychuk, Brodie, etc. All those guys can put up atleast 30 pts in a season where Tanev can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Tanev's production is more like a Marc Andre Vlasic, not great offensively but a player that everyone loves to have on their team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 It's not a colossal overpayment or a huge overpayment... But it is an overpayment. The guy has almost 0 scoring ability and is now making 4.5 for 5 years... 3.5 for 5 years is the most he deserves. I can't believe 4.5... I wish it was 4 at least. That's not good value for a player we groomed and he certainly didn't take a penny off to help the team long term. Not a fan of the deal. 0 hometown discount... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Another case of analytics greatly influencing contracts. A few years ago a team could have signed a player similar to Tanev for 3 mil or so, not anymore. There is little doubt that Tanev is our best defenceman. He is actually one of the top PK defenceman in the league. I wish we could have signed him for 7 years and had his AAV up to 4.75-5 mil.Analytics likely had nothing to do with it. The money/term beef was all about UFA years, as per Tanev's agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguez Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 He's a DEFENSEMAN. Makes whoever he plays with a better player. The guy plays his role nearly perfectly and losing him shouldn't be considered an option. Loosest definition used ever. Forwards are expected to play defence, defence men are expected to play offence as well. I don't like the fact that Tanev doesn't hit, score or create offence particularly well. He is great defensively and has excellent positioning which explains his high shot blocking. I just don't like the money for his one dimensional play. Hopefully he expands his game to a more all-around game. If that happens this is a great deal, if not it's mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I like the term and that we bought a few years of UFA... I don't like how much it cost though especially considering his RFA status. I would have preferred $4m-$4.2m at that term or a shorter deal something like 3 years at $3.6m-$3.8m. This tells me SOMEONE is for sure being moved. Too much money tied up in bottom four or lesser d-men on that right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 J.R. isn't going to like this one. No NTC though and locked up long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFastOne21 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 4.45 x 5 years is great. He is a top 5 defensive dman in the NHL. Every team needs a guy like him and many dont have it. He is not flashy nor physical but does every single little thing a player can do right. Love we have him for 5 more years. Should he regress considerably the lack of an NTC makes him movable but I don't see that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleJack Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Tanev deserves every penny, he is pretty much our best defense man and he has made those he played with better. Look at how awesome edler is this season and how hammer has struggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greetingsfrombrazil Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 If Orpik got 5 years at $5.75M per season, Tanev for 5 at $4.45M is amazing. Would have gotten much more in free agency. Great deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 One of the best defensive defensemen at even strength and probably the best, period, on the PK. Anyone making a fuss over the cap hit being a little too high because of a "lack of offense" is being absolutely ridiculous. I'm just glad to finally have him locked him long-term so I can justify spending way too much money on his jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Great deal for Tanev and us. Certainly could have gotten more if he really wanted to. Edler - 5 mil Bieksa -4.6 mil Hamhuis - 4.5 mil Tanev - 4.45 mil Sbisa - 2.9 mil to qualify Lots of money hemmed on the blueline next season With Emergence of Sbisa playing better and better, Clendening and Corrado both require waivers next season, many other guys to get locked up, I can't see JB carrying those five above into nexr year especially with the question marks surrounding the cap. JB loves Edler, Tanev and Sbisa. Just acquired Clendening and loves Corrado. Juice, Hammer are the guys i see JB looking for value Bieksa only makes $2.5 m next year front loaded contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Loosest definition used ever. Forwards are expected to play defence, defence men are expected to play offence as well. I don't like the fact that Tanev doesn't hit, score or create offence particularly well. He is great defensively and has excellent positioning which explains his high shot blocking. I just don't like the money for his one dimensional play. Hopefully he expands his game to a more all-around game. If that happens this is a great deal, if not it's mediocre. Meanwhile I expect our defencemen to play solid defense and help our goalies. As far as I'm concerned, any offense Tanev provides is a bonus. We have different expectations from our blueline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes!!! Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 $4.45M for our best (if not second best) dman? Love it! Great signing. Great price. Great term. Great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 J.R. isn't going to like this one. No NTC though and locked up long term.Just read partial ntc on HF. Not really confirmed though. I'd expect him to have a short list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I like the term and that we bought a few years of UFA... I don't like how much it cost though especially considering his RFA status. I would have preferred $4m-$4.2m at that term or a shorter deal something like 3 years at $3.6m-$3.8m. This tells me SOMEONE is for sure being moved. Too much money tied up in bottom four or lesser d-men on that right side. I figured you'd be upset. You were pretty open on how Tanev should be moved and was not worth this type of money. Which much others felt as well so you weren't alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucktican Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 GM MG out'GMed again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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