Phat Fingers Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Stetcher shows up every game. He has earned his minutes. Sounds like Green is trying to get Pouliot going. He keeps getting reps. Green does know Pouliot better than anyone in the organization. Don’t know how many more chances Pouliot gets before Green moves on. OJ lost a good chunk of off season training. His skating has never been an issue prior, dont see it as a long term issue. A solid season of games followed by a good off season, he makes the team next year and doesn’t look back. The IQ and Skills are there, just needs to get stronger and he should be fine. Good news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Phat Fingers said: Stetcher shows up every game. He has earned his minutes. Sounds like Green is trying to get Pouliot going. He keeps getting reps. Green does know Pouliot better than anyone in the organization. Don’t know how many more chances Pouliot gets before Green moves on. OJ lost a good chunk of off season training. His skating has never been an issue prior, dont see it as a long term issue. A solid season of games followed by a good off season, he makes the team next year and doesn’t look back. The IQ and Skills are there, just needs to get stronger and he should be fine. Good news. I have been at the young stars for the past few years, and Juolevi was all to often getting walked to the outside when playing LD. This continued into the beginning of this year in Utica. He struggles with his pivot to the left. Tryamkin, also a left shot, makes a stronger pivot to the right - but his difficulty is not as stark as with Juolevi. I have missed the past few Utica games, being in Mexico, has anyone noticed any improvement in this regard? Or is this something to be worked on in summer along with strength and fitness (he has had a couple of summers having his training interrupted by injury)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 If don't pick top 5 I don't mind picking the best ranked defenseman with our first and second again this year! Even if the first is a LD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoolander Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Can't wait for OJ to get called up!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 3:17 PM, westcoastsniper said: Juolevi ranks 5th in points per game for AHL D man 20 and under in the last 20 years with minimum 10 GP. The other 4... Erik Karlsson, John Carlson, Ryan Murphy and Erik Brannstrom. Oli will be here by the TDL ...we just need to move Pooalot and Dull Zonedout, Oli has more upside and offense to his game than those 2 or Chatfield or Brisboise ( both of whom I like...but are marginal NHL'rs) or Sautner who is still trying to get back to last years form.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/17/2018 at 7:07 PM, Ray_Cathode said: I have been at the young stars for the past few years, and Juolevi was all to often getting walked to the outside when playing LD. This continued into the beginning of this year in Utica. He struggles with his pivot to the left. Tryamkin, also a left shot, makes a stronger pivot to the right - but his difficulty is not as stark as with Juolevi. I have missed the past few Utica games, being in Mexico, has anyone noticed any improvement in this regard? Or is this something to be worked on in summer along with strength and fitness (he has had a couple of summers having his training interrupted by injury)? Not a pivot but some nice foot work by Olli in the Comets most recent 4 - 0 loss at home.... https://streamable.com/36i8p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, UticaHockey said: Not a pivot but some nice foot work by Olli in the Comets most recent 4 - 0 loss at home.... https://streamable.com/36i8p Touch slow, but he took the hit to make the play and I respect that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UticaHockey Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Touch slow, but he took the hit to make the play and I respect that The touch slow has been a recurring theme this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 5 hours ago, UticaHockey said: The touch slow has been a recurring theme this season. lack of offseason training and general fatigue from playing more games then usual could explain his loss of pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 6 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: Touch slow, but he took the hit to make the play and I respect that He also knew, the other player was going to play the body instead of the puck. He made the best decision out of that situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beni Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Set him up with Bo's skating coach. Look forward to when he can get a full time spot on the big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, beni said: Set him up with Bo's skating coach. Look forward to when he can get a full time spot on the big club. Juolevi skates forward fine, it’s backwards and pivots that are the problem - send him to a figure skating instructor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted November 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2018 Ryan Johnson on Olli Juolevi: "Juolevi is on a great track & learning the game while having success on the powerplay. We need to keep developing his game in North America with the faster game. We don’t feel the need to fast-track anybody. He’s in his process and doing a great job. I don’t like guys shuttling up to play 1 game, and come back down. We like players to go up and never come back." 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blömqvist Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 On 2018-11-17 at 9:26 AM, RetroCanuck said: I think a lot of it has to do with Juolevi being injured in the offseasons the last couple years. Last offseason he had back surgery so thats really going to cut down on your leg strength coming into the season and it may cause you to question how physical you can be as well. I still think we have a really solid defensemen on our hands, maybe not top pairing but easily a #3 guy. Besides you can teach defence to almost anyone but you cant learn offence. Hughes-_____ Juolevi-Woo Hutton-Stecher I agree, Juolevi will be a solid defenseman for us. The way the game is trending it will be interesting how far up the depth chart Juolevi goes. Before in the 80s and 90s defensemen needed to be 6'4" 220lbs and hit like a freight train. Fast forward to the mid 2000s and coaches started to defend as 5 man units. Today the game is faster than ever before and defensemen need to be able to skate to retrieve the puck on dump-ins and make a play to move the puck. With the recent rule changes in stick violations there is much more offense and this will likely remain the trend. Coaches have adapted and it isn't so much of a "make a mistake and you're benched" type of game anymore. It's about creating more scoring chances than your opponent. Mistakes happen all the time in the game. No player is immune to them. If a player can generate offense in today's NHL as long as they aren't tire fires in their own end (IE, they have adequate strength to get the puck out and adequate understanding/defensive positioning to defend in the 5 man unit) they will get ice time. Skill players -- especially those on defense -- are at a premium because of this. The last draft had Hughes and Boqvist drafted as the first two defensemen, the year before it was Makar and Heiskanen. Whereas these type of defensemen would traditionally be viewed "undersized" and "powerplay specialists" the game is trending to have them as important players. As important as the #1 Goaltender and the #1 Centreman. Juolevi may not be this exact defenseman (see, Quinn Hughes) he does possess the type of skillset needed to generate a large amount of scoring chances. An analogy to this exists in basketball. The Golden State Warriors revolutionized the way the game is played. Teams were stuck on holding possession of the ball, running down the shot clock, and getting the two point bucket (or in Lebron James' case, the "and 1"). The Warriors revolutionized the way the game was played because they focused on fast break offense and shooting beyond the arc whenever they had a good look. To them, it was much more advantageous to get more looks at the bucket and to go for the higher scoring play. The Warriors simply outscored their opponents game after game, season after season. Now all teams are doing the same and that is the new norm. For the NHL, the trend is higher scoring throughout he league, an abundance of highly skilled young players, defensemen that can generate chances in the offensive zone, and of course speed. The Canucks have players that fit the trend and Juolevi is certainly one of them. Juolevi doesn't need to be epic defensively to make it in the NHL. Similarly, he doesn't need to be epic offensively to make it too. The way the game is trending, he has the skill set to play a big role for the Canucks, it's just the process of becoming strong enough, quick enough, and understanding how to defend at the NHL level. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Blömqvist said: I agree, Juolevi will be a solid defenseman for us. The way the game is trending it will be interesting how far up the depth chart Juolevi goes. Before in the 80s and 90s defensemen needed to be 6'4" 220lbs and hit like a freight train. Fast forward to the mid 2000s and coaches started to defend as 5 man units. Today the game is faster than ever before and defensemen need to be able to skate to retrieve the puck on dump-ins and make a play to move the puck. With the recent rule changes in stick violations there is much more offense and this will likely remain the trend. Coaches have adapted and it isn't so much of a "make a mistake and you're benched" type of game anymore. It's about creating more scoring chances than your opponent. Mistakes happen all the time in the game. No player is immune to them. If a player can generate offense in today's NHL as long as they aren't tire fires in their own end (IE, they have adequate strength to get the puck out and adequate understanding/defensive positioning to defend in the 5 man unit) they will get ice time. Skill players -- especially those on defense -- are at a premium because of this. The last draft had Hughes and Boqvist drafted as the first two defensemen, the year before it was Makar and Heiskanen. Whereas these type of defensemen would traditionally be viewed "undersized" and "powerplay specialists" the game is trending to have them as important players. As important as the #1 Goaltender and the #1 Centreman. Juolevi may not be this exact defenseman (see, Quinn Hughes) he does possess the type of skillset needed to generate a large amount of scoring chances. An analogy to this exists in basketball. The Golden State Warriors revolutionized the way the game is played. Teams were stuck on holding possession of the ball, running down the shot clock, and getting the two point bucket (or in Lebron James' case, the "and 1"). The Warriors revolutionized the way the game was played because they focused on fast break offense and shooting beyond the arc whenever they had a good look. To them, it was much more advantageous to get more looks at the bucket and to go for the higher scoring play. The Warriors simply outscored their opponents game after game, season after season. Now all teams are doing the same and that is the new norm. For the NHL, the trend is higher scoring throughout he league, an abundance of highly skilled young players, defensemen that can generate chances in the offensive zone, and of course speed. The Canucks have players that fit the trend and Juolevi is certainly one of them. Juolevi doesn't need to be epic defensively to make it in the NHL. Similarly, he doesn't need to be epic offensively to make it too. The way the game is trending, he has the skill set to play a big role for the Canucks, it's just the process of becoming strong enough, quick enough, and understanding how to defend at the NHL level. Great post but I think Warriors get too much credit; Suns were playing similar game when Nash was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Is Juolevi injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 46 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said: Is Juolevi injured? Maybe he's sick @Rob_Zepp ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blömqvist Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 54 minutes ago, MrCanuck94 said: Is Juolevi injured? 6 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Maybe he's sick @Rob_Zepp ? Or momentarily boarding a plane to Toronto in exchange for Nylander... (Jk if I had to guess he's prolly sick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Uh oh. Possible mysterious health issues. Can’t wait for the speculation and various posters with “insider” info. Should be fun. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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