canucklehead44 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 "The Montreal Canadiens are rumored to be interested in acquiring a top four defensemen. Nick Kypreos, Sportsnet’s NHL insider, hinted at the possibility of this during the second intermission of the Canadiens game against the Toronto Maple Leafs. The question then becomes what do the Canadiens have to give up to get a top four defensemen?"A Key Trading Asset What’s interesting about those deals is what the primary asset of trades were. The key element was second round draft picks. Even when Bergevin traded for Andrew Shaw, he used two second round picks to make the deal. Bounty of 2nd Round Picks Montreal currently has two second round draft picks in the 2017 NHL Entry Drafthttp://awinninghabit.com/2016/11/01/montreal-canadiens-tradingassets/ Habs shopping, but no sellers on the market yet The problem with shopping for a top four defenseman this time of year is there are not a lot of sellers on the market yet. Markov can’t handle burden of playing on top pair Emelin has been playing good hockey this season, but isn’t a long term solution as a top pairing defenseman. The only other defenseman on the left side is Andrei Markov. Markov has been used on the top pairing in the past but the team is wisely trying to limit his minutes this season. At 37 years of age, Markov doesn’t have the endurance he once did. http://awinninghabit.com/2016/10/30/montreal-canadiens-rumous-defense/ ---- Now with two more seasons left on his contract he might not be the right fit for Montreal, who are looking more for a UFA defenseman. That said, with Markov likely coming off the books, plus Radulov they should have the cap space to even with re-signing Galchenyuk. The Canucks don't look to be going anywhere fast, and Edler is no spring chicken. Could it be possible for him to waive his NTC to go to a top team like Montreal, especially to play with Weber? I believe it is very possible. To Montreal Alex Edler (half million per year retained?) To Vancouver 2017 2nd round pick Two 2018 2nd round picks David Desharnais This gives Montreal their top pairing left side defense while keeping at least a 2nd round pick in each of the next two drafts as they have five over the next two years (hopefully we could snag three in this deal). Moving Desharnais' contract makes this trade possible and gives us an extra piece up front and possibly another pick at the TDL. One of the 2nd round picks could then be moved to acquire a young roster player for now, or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I personally would not be interested in Desharnais as the "principle" in a deal for Edler - not even close. A volume deal like this - not that tempting, particularly with how late Montreal's 2nd/s could be - ditto with the Wash and Chi picks. Also, the Habs have Beaulieu - they tried him early with Weber on the top pairing - and he's likely an eventual fixture somewhere in their top 4. I think the idea that Edler could fit well there is a good one - just not too keen on the proposed return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 id want mccarron a first and a second and conditional second if the reach finals otherwise they can eat rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 35 minutes ago, canuktravella said: id want mccarron a first and a second and conditional second if the reach finals otherwise they can eat rocks For Edler? Kept dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
we win the cup in 2025 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 i thought the OP referred to Mntreal wanting a TOP defenseman. that rules Edler out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I think you over value Edler. A 30-year old D who's never scored more than 11 goals. Three 2nd round picks and Desharnais? I'd be happy with a 1st or two 2nds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Defence men are in high demand and very hard to find. They are worth alot in this league. Edler even for all his gaff's is still worth a high 1st and roster player. If Jim traded him for anything less than that, he'd be doing another injustice to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Yes, D are valued high, so you would think JB would get a good return. A 1st and a roster player would be a home run IMO. Be interesting who that roster player would be. At this point draft picks are a priority, so an extra 1st would help the rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Don't hear much about Juulsen, as of late(has his progress stopped?) Also don't know much about Habs' prospects, but agree there seems a decent match here. I'd like to add one of our prospects(mediocre one), so they can upgrade that with another piece. Especially if we took DD off their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Don't hear much about Juulsen, as of late(has his progress stopped?) Also don't know much about Habs' prospects, but agree there seems a decent match here. I'd like to add one of our prospects(mediocre one), so they can upgrade that with another piece. Especially if we took DD off their hands. He had some injury issues last season. He's the captain of Everett this year and is doing very well. Sounds like a very likely lock for a slot on the world junior team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 ^Thanks Qw for that info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Not sure if Bergevin want's anything to do with Vancouver after Benning opened his yap a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 what teams would edler drop his ntc for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Edler is a top pair Dman. No way JB moves him for that. You would expect a top tier young prospect and a 1st coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I think Montreal might be one as they have a great team and an Edler would put them on top of the east for the rest of the year if they didn't give up much,but we needs scoring and picks are great but what do they do for us now??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 hours ago, canuktravella said: id want mccarron a first and a second and conditional second if the reach finals otherwise they can eat rocks If they gave us a first and those two 2nds and you what Edler haters? I bet that's around the value he fetches But if the deal is for scapes then no. we have to shake our pushover image, make teams pay, or get nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 23 minutes ago, ice orca said: Not sure if Bergevin want's anything to do with Vancouver after Benning opened his yap a few months ago. What did Benning say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 3 minutes ago, terrible.dee said: What did Benning say? He said that frogs legs are overrated, or he said the Canucks are interested in PK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, terrible.dee said: What did Benning say? Mentioned Subbans name when it was taboo to do so as well as Stamkos and promptly got 2 complaints to the NHL about it...you can guess who the complainants were. Got a 2 grand fine for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 If we got Juulsen and their 1st.....I would be pretty darn happy Works for me on every level They can throw what ever cap relief they want....their Choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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