canucklehead80 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 It depends on your definition of a dynasty. The traditional "dynasty" is a team winning multiple Cups in a row, ie Islanders and Oilers really being the last dynasties. The closest thing we've seen since is probably the Blackhawks the last 6 or so years. By this definition I would say no, as it is so rare in the current NHL with the salary cap rules, etc. I do believe that the Canucks can get back to being a prerrenial favourite/contender as they had been prior to the regime change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Bur14Kes17 said: Not in my life time. I'm 27 and the only dynasty that's occured in my life time is the Blackhawks. I'll be more then happy if we manage to win a cup before I die Pens and LA were on the fringe as well. Depends on ones definition of a "dynasty". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Yes, we will be a dynasty. My buddy, Nostradamus, looked into the future for me and the Canucks win the Cup In 2030/31, 2031/32, 2032/33. I guess there is hope after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Just now, Rick Blight said: Yes, we will be a dynasty. My buddy, Nostradamus, looked into the future for me and the Canucks win the Cup In 2030/31, 2031/32, 2032/33. I guess there is hope after all. #BecauseItsTheCup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PunjabiCanucks Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Closest thing to a dynasty now is the Pens and Hawks. Only way we become a dynasty is if we get a 2018 1st OA pick and pick a superstar. Between that future 1c and Horvat and the other wingers we have, if Demko pans out to be a superstar and we get lucky on defence then sure we may win a cup or two. But dynasty can't say so. If we get the 3oa and keep the 5th, we look good in the future. But without an elite player we can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Warhippy said: It;s entirely debatable and up to a persons personal point of view. but for me, and many others. 3 in a row is the mark of a dynastic team. A sports dynasty is a team or individual that dominates their sport or league for an extended length of time. The definition of dynasty by some academics implies a single leader over the bulk of that period. http://www.tatteredpennant.com/home/sports-dynasty-is-not-up-for-debate http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/what-defines-a-sports-dynasty Did you read either of the articles you linked? Nowhere do they say that a team needs to win the championship three years in a row to be considered a dynasty. In fact, the first argues that ownership is the true measurement of a sports dynasty while the second says a dynasty can be measured by winning multiple championships in a short amount of time. It doesn't say anything about if the years have to be consecutive enough. Quote A sports dynasty is a team or individual that dominates their sport or league for an extended length of time. The definition of dynasty by some academics implies a single leader over the bulk of that period. The designation should not automatically be used for a string of several dominant years in a row, unless the number of years that the league has existed is few, making several years of dominance a large percentage. It implies an extended length of time. Sometimes such dominance is often only realized in retrospect. The most widely accepted sports dynasties are those with the majority of championships over a very long period of time, either consecutively and / or with interruptions, e.g. the UCLA Bruins men's basketball team's seven straight national championships from 1964 to 1975 and 10 national championships during the reign of coach John Wooden, or the Princeton University men's football team from the pre-NCAA football years of the 1890s (it was one of the two teams to play the first college football game) all the way until 1950, during which they won 28 national championships, or the Yale University men's football team, which won 27 recognized national football championships between 1872 and 1926.The Port Stephens Pythons in Australian limited-overs cricket have also forged their own Dynasty winning eleven Major Premierships from fifteen Grand Final appearances in their 19-year history in the top grade. They have even managed to secure "three-peat" premierships on three separate occasions which outshines that of the Chicago Bulls throughout the 90s and the LA Lakers in the start of the millennium. Some leagues maintain official lists of dynasties, often as part of a hall of fame (e.g., National Hockey League), but in many cases, whether a team has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancouver Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I honestly can't see the Canucks winning even one cup with bettman at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 As for if the Canucks can become a dynasty? It's nearly impossible to say. We don't know what the league will look like ten years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 "Can". There is a non-zero percentage chance of this occurring. So yes. Will? Depends on management. Probably not any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynwa Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Never say never, but in this cap era "extremely unlikely" is a massive understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 If and when we do not get shafted at the draft lotto we might, but we would need to have ten years of no playoffs like the Oil and Leafs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 In the now 31-team league it seems becoming a dynasty is more luck-based than ever. Pickings are so slim for star players that you have to hope to get lucky with some, as we did with Horvat. That said, I think good management from trading, free agency, drafting, and development is extremely crucial as well, and not all of that is luck-based. Some teams are just straight up better managed than others and therefore increase their chances at winning the dynasty lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 There are no dynasties in a Cap Era NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Let's just win 1 first, be happy with that and go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Look, people asked the same thing about the Blue Jays before they committed to actually winning. Once they went all in, they won not once but twice. When the organization finally goes all in, we'll get there. They don't want to be a dynasty, therefore ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I'm going to say anything it possible. However, only a few teams in any sport can ever really brag about having a dynasty. It's rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Look, people asked the same thing about the Blue Jays before they committed to actually winning. Once they went all in, they won not once but twice. When the organization finally goes all in, we'll get there. They don't want to be a dynasty, therefore ... Thank you for engaging the question. So far less than 5 percent of Canuck fans have responded that they think there is a chance of becoming a dynasty. Your response is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 hours ago, fanfor42 said: The following is a great question to ponder in the off season. In the modern era of hockey, Montreal, New York Islanders, Edmonton, Chicago, maybe Detroit, maybe Pittsburgh, maybe others have created, at one time or another, teams that the fans of the league would call dynasties. Vancouver has been in the NHL since 1970. No dynasty so far. In fact, no cup so far. So what's the deal? Is there some reason why other cities can create teams that become dynasties in the NHL but Vancouver cannot? Are we inferior? Do we lack the ability to attract top end management talent? Are our media so poisonous that no team can gain traction? And the most salient question, do Vancouver fans somehow lack what it takes to support a team to become a dynasty? Fans in Chicago and Boston say yes. We've all read those comments. Vancouver is rebuilding again. It's happened numerous times over the past 47 years. So here we go again and the question has to be asked, are we capable? Can we win a cup and even more to the point can we ever form a dynasty? Why would we ever sell ourselves short? Do we truly think we are maybe, maybe capable of someday winning a cup but are never capable of being a dynasty? If so, why? Why? This stuff is not handed down by god. it's created by a belief in a fan base that their team deserves it and a belief by ownership and management that it is possible. Can the Canucks ever be a dynasty? For me this question is a test for this fan base. I've been cheering for the team since the beginning. There are great fans here. I meet them all the time. Over the years the media has said the following of the Vancouver fan base. We are just a bunch of whiners. (Yes we've been called that). The media says we can't support a rebuild cuz Vancouver is an event town. WTF? And lately they've been suggesting Vancouver fans don't know enough to allow prospects to grow without undue pressure. As far as I'm concerned that's all a bunch of crap. Total crap. Vancouver has tremendous fans. Vancouver fans are the Chicago Cubs fans of the NHL. We have been taking it on the chin for 47 years and counting. Vancouver fans support the Canucks and shut out all the other junk.. Every fan has had to turn the other cheek at some point when some excitable Oilers or Flames fan has reminded them that the Canucks have never won a cup. Every Canucks fan knows deep down that the media and the trolls and the loud noise from the other cities can jolly well go in the crapper. So the question is, can Vancouver ever become an NHL dynasty team? (ps Have a laugh every time you see someone answer that the Canucks have not even won a cup...cuz they didn't bother to read past the title. Lol). No, no and no..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Did you read either of the articles you linked? Nowhere do they say that a team needs to win the championship three years in a row to be considered a dynasty. In fact, the first argues that ownership is the true measurement of a sports dynasty while the second says a dynasty can be measured by winning multiple championships in a short amount of time. It doesn't say anything about if the years have to be consecutive enough. Yes. I very much read the articles. I also very much stated my opinion on what a dynasty is. My response was to being asked who defined what a dynasty is. I posted 2 articles with great opinions on what one is or constitutes one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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