867-five-309 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: if Benning has Zadina ranked higher than Dobson and thinks he is the better player that is available, then I would expect Benning would take Zadina. Why would you think otherwise? Benning will pick the worst player in order to messwithu. Un freak eng ba wievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 hour ago, TGokou said: Ok bad example, you did a #1 D man for a #1 D man trade there. If we really needed a #1 D-man we wouldn't be trading another one to get one.... ha, I didn't even think about Weber in the return........2 birds, one stone. I do agree with your point though, it isn't remotely common practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Interesting story of hits and misses in a deep draft, 2008; https://www.nhl.com/news/2008-nhl-redraft-stamkos-doughty-karlsson/c-299076486?tid=280428014 Bryan Murray to Pierre Dorian on Eric Karlsson Dorion still had to sell GM Bryan Murray on Karlsson. "He goes, 'Pierre, how long do you want to work for me?'" Dorion said. "I said, 'A long time.' He goes, 'You want us to take a 5-foot-10, 159-pound defenseman?' I said 'Yes, we've got to take him and I want to work for you for a long time. Bryan, this is the guy we should be taking.'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Pears said: If Tkachuk is available at 7 and Calgary really wants him, what could we get from them? a lot. Think of the marketing alone with the Tkacuk brothers. But as much as I'dl like the return I hate the idea of having to face that in our division and maybe in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 3 hours ago, 70seven said: Buffalo - Dahlin Carolina - Svechnikov Montreal - Kotkaniemi Ottawa - Hughes Arizona - Zadina Detroit - Bouchard Vancouver - Tkachuk Chicago - Wahlstrom NYR - Dobson Edmonton - Boqvist Not my preference... just a prediction. From what I’ve heard, Van likes Tkachuk more than any D man not named Dahlin. Source? Where did you hear management covets Tkachuk over any D in this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: a lot. Think of the marketing alone with the Tkacuk brothers. But as much as I'dl like the return I hate the idea of having to face that in our division and maybe in the playoffs. I'd ask for Ferland + 1st 2019 + 2020 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, Outsiders said: I'd ask for Ferland + 1st 2019 + 2nd this yr (if they have one. Not sure if they gave it up in the Hamonic trade) I'd go for even more, if we're going to gift that to Calgary its got to be an epic return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: a lot. Think of the marketing alone with the Tkacuk brothers. But as much as I'dl like the return I hate the idea of having to face that in our division and maybe in the playoffs. Yeah like, if they really want to have both Tkachuks, they’d have to pony up. Something like Valimaki+2019 1st maybe? I’d push for Dillon Dube or Matthew Phillips as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: I'd go for even more, if we're going to gift that to Calgary its got to be an epic return. Posted that and thought the same. Didn't even give me a minute to edit my dumb post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Watching some Kotkaniemi highlights I can see why people aren't a fan of his skating. He's not slow or anything, it just looks wacky. Nothing a skating coach can't fix. I don't think skating will be a problem for him in the NHL. Even if he keeps skating kinda wonky. Speed is definitely not the problem, someone mentioned it to me and I agree with them. I been riding the Kotkaniemi train since the season ended and I started tracking prospects more. I am not gonna lie I kinda hope we snag him at 7 if he's around, Boqvist and Kotkaniemi are my top 2 guys. Either one at 7 would be my dream scenario. With the way the top 5-10 is projected there is a solid chance neither are around. Everything I hear about Kotkaniemi is great. So I can see why Montreal might value him at 3 and honestly I can see why with all the talk about him. Character guy, big body, good two way game, very intelligent, great skill. Don't be surprised if he's in the NHL as early as next year, not the 18/19 season but the 19/20 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckpuckluck1 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Pears said: If Tkachuk is available at 7 and Calgary really wants him, what could we get from them? I'd start with Rasmus Andersson , Calgarys 2019 1st and Dillon Dube and see what reaction that gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70seven Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Rodishred said: Source? Where did you hear management covets Tkachuk over any D in this draft? Just gleaning between the lines for the most part. I had heard reports from a local source as early as February that the Canucks REALLY liked Tkachuk and Dobson. There has has not been a Green, Benning, or Linden interview to indicate otherwise. This team needs a lot. Upgrade at LW is just as pressing as Dmen. Our top LW is Baertschi.... with not many top 6 hopefuls behind him. Time after time heading into the deadline, the focus has been on addding “push back” up front that can play in today’s game. Tkachuk simply crosses off a tonne of the boxes on what the organization needs/wants. Yes, defence is a huge priority, but if they deem that Tkachuk is bpa, and LW is still a position of extreme weakness, I do think they’ll take Tkachuk at 7 if on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Rush17 said: I have a new article coming out sometime today or tomorrow. We're I explore the latest on the Canucks draft and 9 players I feel we could take at 7. I'll be sure to share in this chat when I'm finished. This #7 pick could end up getting us the 3rd or 4th best player of the teams ahead of us pick the wrong guys. Jim is good at finding talent. God, I love having a strong drafting group. JB for GM of the year soon enough lol Here it is folks! Exploring Draft Options For 7th Overall Don't mind the selfish self promotion. I figured you guys might find it an ok read. :). I have some work to do with my writing still but I feel I'm improving each go at it. Tell me what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: I just hope there's time to dangle him to Calgary and then pull out of a deal at the last second. You mean like a “dealus interuptis”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 49 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Here it is folks! Exploring Draft Options For 7th Overall Don't mind the selfish self promotion. I figured you guys might find it an ok read. :). I have some work to do with my writing still but I feel I'm improving each go at it. Tell me what you think. Totally fun reading! Lots of information too. Thanks for the link. Alf doesn’t have Twitter. ps: (I think the guy going first to Buffalo is “in” not “en”) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: Totally fun reading! Lots of information too. Thanks for the link. Alf doesn’t have Twitter. ps: (I think the guy going first to Buffalo is “in” not “en”) Thanks Alf! I must have Jonathan Dahlen on my mind lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Just now, Rush17 said: Thanks Alf! I must have Jonathan Dahlen on my mind lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Outsiders said: I'd ask for Ferland + 1st 2019 + 2020 1st Calgary would jump all over that -- they love giving away first round picks. But yeah, I'd try to grab one of their dmen prospects (Andersson, Fox, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Thanks Alf! I must have Jonathan Dahlen on my mind lol. Alf misspelled Dahlen/ Dahlin so many times ( usually Dhalin/ Dhalen ) I'm surprised he feels okay being judgemental ! PS.......not to pile on, but you got Jesperi Kotkaniemi wrong twice. ( Jessperi Kokamiemi & Jesperi Kokaneimi ) Obviously typos, but your proof reader dropped the ball. PPS.....kudos for an excellent revue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, Alflives said: You mean like a “dealus interuptis”? that reminds me of the time we had two racoons mating on our garage, and I turned the hose on them. The female ran away, the male stayed on the garage roof and man you've never seen such a pissed off racoon in your life. So yeah I want to see Jim do that to Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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