mll Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Odd. said: Though there's already people saying he should be suspended for a long time and some suggest this being borderline assault. If this happened to one of our players I'm sure people would be downright livid and would want Rinaldo to be suspendedThere was a whole twitter brawl between fans, former players, and analysts about this incident and many of them agree that what Rinaldo did was predatory like. The problem here is that Rinaldo is a serious repeat offender, he was even simultaneously suspended from the NHL AND AHL at one point. According to Craig Morgan on NHL.com, Rinaldo is currently suspended indefinitely. No reports on a hearing yet but he's suspended indefinitely. Need someone higher than him to confirm this. Rinaldo got a match penalty and that's an automatic suspension until the league reviews the play. From the NHL rule book: Rule 21 – Match Penalties 21.1 Match Penalty - A match penalty involves the suspension of a player for the balance of the game and the offender shall be ordered to the dressing room immediately. A match penalty shall be imposed on any player who deliberately attempts to injure or who deliberately injures an opponent in any manner. 21.2 Short-handed - A substitute player is permitted to replace the penalized player after five (5) minutes playing time has elapsed. The match penalty, plus any additional penalties, shall be served by a player (excluding a goalkeeper) to be designated by the Manager or Coach of the offending team through the playing Captain, such player to take his place in the penalty box immediately. For all match penalties, regardless of when imposed, or prescribed additional penalties, a total of ten minutes shall be charged in the records against the offending player. In addition to the match penalty, the player shall be automatically suspended from further competition until the Commissioner has ruled on the issue. See also Rule 28 – Supplementary Discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cramarossa Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, mll said: In addition to the match penalty, the player shall be automatically suspended from further competition until the Commissioner has ruled on the issue. Is this the main difference between a match penalty and a game misconduct? I was trying to look it up online after it happened but the sites I saw said they were the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baer. Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cramarossa said: Is this the main difference between a match penalty and a game misconduct? I was trying to look it up online after it happened but the sites I saw said they were the same thing. Match penalty automatically comes with a 1 game suspension IIRC Could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 20 minutes ago, Cramarossa said: Is this the main difference between a match penalty and a game misconduct? I was trying to look it up online after it happened but the sites I saw said they were the same thing. It takes three game misconducts to have an automatic one game suspension - it increases after each additional game misconduct. Dorsett had two and Canucks tried unsuccessfully to have his 2nd one rescinded. Match penalty is when there is intent to injure another player. This is the NHL rule book for this season - it's article 23 on page 32. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2017-2018-NHL-rulebook.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, Baer. said: Match penalty automatically comes with a 1 game suspension IIRC Could be wrong indefinite suspension until the league rules on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Some instant justice with Johnson absolutely wrecking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Johnson destroyed Rinaldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Regardless of the coming suspension, I love how Johnson pummeled that guy. And Mackinnon! Wow! If he could bring that type of aggression to his current play, is he another Shanahan? Really like the Avs response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Rinaldo being a gutless pos? Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Why I still this garbage still allowed to play in the NHL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, JamesBlondage said: Why I still this garbage still allowed to play in the NHL? This could be the nail in the coffin. Torres was pretty much forced into retirement. I see Rinaldo going the same route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Erik Johnson was livid. Damn, he was angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 19 hours ago, Cramarossa said: I was watching the game as it happened and feel like I'm the only person who didn't see anything wrong. Rinaldo's hit on Mackinnon was clean, and Girard changed direction specifically to skate at Rinaldo and shove him up high. I'm not sure what he was expecting skating up to him like that right after a big hit, but to me the result wasn't surprising. If he was gonna go out of his way to skate up like that he should've already had his gloves off, or at least dropped his stick. I agree, it wasn't really a sucker punch in the way Rinaldo sneaked up on the guy and punched him. Girard skates at Rinaldo and physically engages him. Rinaldo was too quick to throw a punch but can't blame him for thinking that a fight is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 If Rinaldo doesn't see Girard at the last second, what would Girard have done to him... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoesRooster Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 11:01 AM, Cramarossa said: I was watching the game as it happened and feel like I'm the only person who didn't see anything wrong. Rinaldo's hit on Mackinnon was clean, and Girard changed direction specifically to skate at Rinaldo and shove him up high. I'm not sure what he was expecting skating up to him like that right after a big hit, but to me the result wasn't surprising. If he was gonna go out of his way to skate up like that he should've already had his gloves off, or at least dropped his stick. This! x100!!! I don't know if I'm getting old but this new NHL is getting way too soft for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Rinaldo's an ass, but this is him reacting to Girard coming in after a hit. If the NHL didn't have the mentality to jump a guy after every big hit, Rinaldo wouldn't have been one edge waiting for someone to jump him. You could see him looking around right away (sign enough he knows he's a crap disturber of course). Once Girard cuts into him and gives him a shove, Rinaldo has to think something's on, and he reacted. He reacted poorly and went straight to the punch after dropping his gloves when Girard hadn't followed up the initial shove, so that and his history does deserve something, but it's far less of an issue than it's made out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 It was a sucker punch. Period. Look where their hands were. If you’ve ever done this fighting stuff yourself, you know better. Like Toews says, this guy is done. Nobody wants to share the bench with antics like that. He is likely the last of the super-rats left in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 PS Good hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I accidentally clicked yes. zac is pos without a doubt and he has done variations of this before but........... dont approach a guy, like zac, in this situation, without your gloves off or your stick raised in a cross check at throat level. Poor kid learned a lesson I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombrova22 Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Rinaldo suspended for six games. https://twitter.com/NHLPlayerSafety/status/946183500700553216?ref_src=twcamp^share|twsrc^m5|twgr^email|twcon^7046|twterm^3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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