KKnight Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, The_Rocket said: If the Canucks some how manage to get Byram then they should trade joulevi for a forward. Package him with whatever else you need to to get a winger for bo If that was to happen. I would look at teams like Montreal, St.Louis, LA, Winnipeg, Minny. Just off the top of my head players I would inquire about - some of these would take a package including Olli to get. 1. Gallagher (potential hab for life tho) 2. Tarasenko (Blues probably not in the mindset of a rebuild yet tho) He would take this team to another stratosphere. 3. Toffoli - unusual year for him - usually good for 20-25 goals 45 points. Only one year left on his deal, So probably not a good option. 4. Ehlers - Winnipeg is in cap hell this summer. Connor and Laine are going to get monster deals. Wheelers will kick in next year. 6 mill per for until 2025. Could be a decent option. 5. Maybe Greenway - I have liked his game this year, but not sure of I would be willing to part with Olli for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathrowe Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Looking into this draft a lot lately and having some mixed feelings about all of the usntdp program players being ranked so highly. Not taking shots at the program itself, i realize its doing great things for American hockey and is churning out star players like gangbusters. My only concern this year is that with all the talent this year i feel like some of these players are driving the play and some others are benefitting from that. Not sure if anyone else shares these concerns, with the Canucks likely drafting between 8-12 it seems very likely to me that we could be drafting one of these guys. Just ran a lottery sim and we ended up 9th (actually the first time I ran it we moved to 2nd pick but i figured thats too easy). Looking for some feedback from you guys if the draft goes as follows. Please dont take shots at the draft order, Im just throwing out a hypothetical scenario 1. Hughes 2. Kakko 3. Podkolzin 4. Byram 5. Cozens 6. Turcotte 7. Zegras 8. Dach Basically I think we would be looking at Krebs or Boldy... Could be wrong on that, I like a lot about Krebs game but the -50 is painful to look at, and with Boldy i have some concerns about him riding shotgun with some elite talent. Let me know what you guys think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Some 10/10 hockey names in this draft. Rarely do we ever see this type of quality within the top 15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanfor42 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Canucks will almost certainly finish 5 to 10 from the bottom. The most likely spots are 8 or 9. That means the most likely scenario has them staying put or dropping one spot and therefore drafting 8, 9 or 10. Most likely gives them a 5 or 6% chance of getting 1st overall and a 16 to 19% chance at picking top 3. By default that's about an 81% chance of drafting 8, 9 or 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Craig Buttons March 25th list its on tsn with more information and up to pick 100 I had difficulties copying from my phone 1Jack HughesUSA NTDP (USHL) 2Kaapo KakkoTurku (SM Liiga)C/RW6'2 3Vasili PodkolzinSt. Petersburg (MHL) 4Trevor ZegrasUSA NTDP (USHL)C6'01 5Bowen ByramVancouver (WHL)D6'0 ½ 6Dylan CozensLethbridge (WHL)C6'3 7Matthew BoldyUSA NTDP (USHL)LW6'1 ½ 8Alex TurcotteUSA NTDP (USHL)C5'11 9Arthur KaliyevHamilton (OHL)RW6'1 ¼ 10Cole CaufieldUSA NTDP (USHL)RW5'6 ¾ 11Philip BrobergAIK (SWE-A 12Ilya NikolaevYaroslavl (MHL)C6'01 13Spencer KnightUSA NTDP (USHL)G6'2 ½ 14Jakob PelletierMoncton (QMJHL)C/LW5'9 15Kirby DachSaskatoon (WHL)C/RW6'3 16Thomas HarleyMississauga (OHL)D6'3 17Peyton KrebsKootenay (WHL)C5'11 ¼ 18Raphael LavoieHalifax (QMJHL)LW/RW6'3 ½ 19Cam YorkUSA NTDP (USHL)D5'11 ¼ 20Victor SoderstromBrynas (SWE J20)D5'11 21Bobby BrinkSioux City (USHL) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Craig Buttons March 25th list its on tsn with more information and up to pick 100 I had difficulties copying from my phone 1Jack HughesUSA NTDP (USHL) 2Kaapo KakkoTurku (SM Liiga)C/RW6'2 3Vasili PodkolzinSt. Petersburg (MHL) 4Trevor ZegrasUSA NTDP (USHL)C6'01 5Bowen ByramVancouver (WHL)D6'0 ½ 6Dylan CozensLethbridge (WHL)C6'3 7Matthew BoldyUSA NTDP (USHL)LW6'1 ½ 8Alex TurcotteUSA NTDP (USHL)C5'11 9Arthur KaliyevHamilton (OHL)RW6'1 ¼ 10Cole CaufieldUSA NTDP (USHL)RW5'6 ¾ 11Philip BrobergAIK (SWE-A 12Ilya NikolaevYaroslavl (MHL)C6'01 13Spencer KnightUSA NTDP (USHL)G6'2 ½ 14Jakob PelletierMoncton (QMJHL)C/LW5'9 15Kirby DachSaskatoon (WHL)C/RW6'3 16Thomas HarleyMississauga (OHL)D6'3 17Peyton KrebsKootenay (WHL)C5'11 ¼ 18Raphael LavoieHalifax (QMJHL)LW/RW6'3 ½ 19Cam YorkUSA NTDP (USHL)D5'11 ¼ 20Victor SoderstromBrynas (SWE J20)D5'11 21Bobby BrinkSioux City (USHL) Krebs at 17 would be a steal for anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 10 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: There has been some serious overlooking of Ville Heinola, his numbers are better than Miro H. in his draft year and was really good at the WJC. Anyone know of any glaring weaknesses in his game, as he has looked solid in Finland's top league? For comparison Heinola has 0.41 pts/game in Liiga in draft year Joulevi had 0.50 pts/game in Liiga in draft +2 year I brought up Heinola and Kokkonen a while back too. If the draft was based purely on stats, they would both be surefire top 10 picks. Neither are particularly small (Kokkonen is pretty solid already at around 190lbs) and I'm not really sure if there are any glaring weaknesses. Everybody was happy when Juolevi was playing in a men's league in his draft +2 year; these guys are doing it in their draft years and putting up better numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 I want Byram & Lassi Thomson. Sign Panarin for 9.5 mill per over 6-7 years. Find a suitor for Loui & Sutter. Trade Juolevi + for a right D. Re-sign Eddy to a two year deal. Sign Boeser long term 7 million per. Sign Marky to a 2 year extension 5 million per. Panarin - Petey - Boeser Sven - Bo - Leivo or Virtanen Pearson - Gaudette - Virtanen or Leivo Roussel - Beagle - Motte Ex. Spooner? Eddy - Tanev Hughes - New right D or Stech Hutton or Byram - New Right D or Stech Ex. Biega, Sautner Marky Demko Potential trade chips this offseason: Hutton - if eddy comes back and Byram is selected. Players who wont be back. Granny, Goldy, Pouliot. Players we might look moving if we have another sub par year, if these moves happen. Tanev. Sven. Please Benning make bold moves!! Enough pussy footing. In the pipeline if it goes according to plan Byram - if doesnt make the team. Woo Thomson Madden MacEwen Brisebois Tryamkin Lind Gadjovich Rathbone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 This guy is a carbon copy of Sami Salo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Deathrowe said: Looking into this draft a lot lately and having some mixed feelings about all of the usntdp program players being ranked so highly. Not taking shots at the program itself, i realize its doing great things for American hockey and is churning out star players like gangbusters. My only concern this year is that with all the talent this year i feel like some of these players are driving the play and some others are benefitting from that. Not sure if anyone else shares these concerns, with the Canucks likely drafting between 8-12 it seems very likely to me that we could be drafting one of these guys. Just ran a lottery sim and we ended up 9th (actually the first time I ran it we moved to 2nd pick but i figured thats too easy). Looking for some feedback from you guys if the draft goes as follows. Please dont take shots at the draft order, Im just throwing out a hypothetical scenario 1. Hughes 2. Kakko 3. Podkolzin 4. Byram 5. Cozens 6. Turcotte 7. Zegras 8. Dach Basically I think we would be looking at Krebs or Boldy... Could be wrong on that, I like a lot about Krebs game but the -50 is painful to look at, and with Boldy i have some concerns about him riding shotgun with some elite talent. Let me know what you guys think. This is pretty much how I see it too. At least 1-6 as Boldy, Zegras, Dach are all close after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, Odd. said: This guy is a carbon copy of Sami Salo I like him, as long as he doesn't have Salo's injury ability haha He'd have to fall to our second round pick but IM sure the Canucks are well aware of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGokou Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: I like him, as long as he doesn't have Salo's injury ability haha He'd have to fall to our second round pick but IM sure the Canucks are well aware of him Personally I wouldn't take him until the late 2nd - early 3rd round. I am not a huge fan of drafting D-men who have an early birthday unless they have already shown something super special in their draft year (ie. Quinn Hughes, Evan Bouchard). . I can't comment on his defensive skills but his numbers don't particularly stand out for an offensive D-man. I've done the research in past years and D-men who are drafted with an early birthday (September, October, November, December birthdays) have a huge statistical disadvantage of making it to the NHL. Rather go with a D-man that has a June, July, August birthday who maybe hasn't shown as much offense yet but could have a huge bump in their D+1 year. (aka Jett Woo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, TGokou said: Personally I wouldn't take him until the late 2nd - early 3rd round. I am not a huge fan of drafting D-men who have an early birthday unless they have already shown something super special in their draft year (ie. Quinn Hughes, Evan Bouchard). . I can't comment on his defensive skills but his numbers don't particularly stand out for an offensive D-man. I've done the research in past years and D-men who are drafted with an early birthday (September, October, November, December birthdays) have a huge statistical disadvantage of making it to the NHL. Rather go with a D-man that has a June, July, August birthday who maybe hasn't shown as much offense yet but could have a huge bump in their D+1 year. (aka Jett Woo). Im not sure I understand. Lassi doesn't have an early birthday. Otherwise he would have been eligible for last year's draft in which he missed the deadline by being born a couple days later. Kelowna has had a dreadful season, one of the lowest scoring teams in the entire CHL. His point totals will seem misleading. 41pts (17 goals), Top 5 in rookie scoring as a d-man while adjusting to NA, and despite playing a lot of minutes is a positive plus-minus player. Also Thomson is a projected mid-first round pick. I doubt he even makes it to the 2nd round and if he does it wont be long before he is taken. Edited March 26, 2019 by Odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, TGokou said: Personally I wouldn't take him until the late 2nd - early 3rd round. I am not a huge fan of drafting D-men who have an early birthday unless they have already shown something super special in their draft year (ie. Quinn Hughes, Evan Bouchard). . I can't comment on his defensive skills but his numbers don't particularly stand out for an offensive D-man. I've done the research in past years and D-men who are drafted with an early birthday (September, October, November, December birthdays) have a huge statistical disadvantage of making it to the NHL. Rather go with a D-man that has a June, July, August birthday who maybe hasn't shown as much offense yet but could have a huge bump in their D+1 year. (aka Jett Woo). Hmmm can't agree with this. He's not dropping to third, that's for sure. Kelowna ain't a great team but he did great. Numbers aren't everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Rush17 said: I'm here boys and girls. It's time to join the annual draft thread lol. Took me 78 pages to get engaged. Good on the guys for giving us something to watch. Let's see who we get in that 5-12 range. I shall be catching up on the thread now lol. See you in 2 weeks haha. 78 pages..hmmm oh yea man, the party can finally get started. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Button said that Zegras reminds him of Pettersson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Monahan Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Odd. said: Im not sure I understand. Lassi doesn't have an early birthday. Otherwise he would have been eligible for last year's draft in which he missed the deadline by being born a couple days later. Early relative to his draft-eligible peers. He missed last year’s draft by 9 days. He could be almost a full year older than some of the other first-time draft eligibles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Button said that Zegras reminds him of Pettersson. Zegras does seem like a Tyler Madden or Pettersson type that could take his game to the next level with adding some more muscle. At 168 lbs he also leads the USDP with 80 penalty minutes, which makes me believe he is willing to get his hands dirty and battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 If we win 1st OA I am going to ash Anaheim for their 6th OA, 20th OA and their 37TH OA I would be pretty happy with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 hours ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Craig Buttons March 25th list its on tsn with more information and up to pick 100 I had difficulties copying from my phone 1Jack HughesUSA NTDP (USHL) 2Kaapo KakkoTurku (SM Liiga)C/RW6'2 3Vasili PodkolzinSt. Petersburg (MHL) 4Trevor ZegrasUSA NTDP (USHL)C6'01 5Bowen ByramVancouver (WHL)D6'0 ½ 6Dylan CozensLethbridge (WHL)C6'3 7Matthew BoldyUSA NTDP (USHL)LW6'1 ½ 8Alex TurcotteUSA NTDP (USHL)C5'11 9Arthur KaliyevHamilton (OHL)RW6'1 ¼ 10Cole CaufieldUSA NTDP (USHL)RW5'6 ¾ 11Philip BrobergAIK (SWE-A 12Ilya NikolaevYaroslavl (MHL)C6'01 13Spencer KnightUSA NTDP (USHL)G6'2 ½ 14Jakob PelletierMoncton (QMJHL)C/LW5'9 15Kirby DachSaskatoon (WHL)C/RW6'3 16Thomas HarleyMississauga (OHL)D6'3 17Peyton KrebsKootenay (WHL)C5'11 ¼ 18Raphael LavoieHalifax (QMJHL)LW/RW6'3 ½ 19Cam YorkUSA NTDP (USHL)D5'11 ¼ 20Victor SoderstromBrynas (SWE J20)D5'11 21Bobby BrinkSioux City (USHL) Isn't it Buttons that projects players future NHL projections and not actual draft order?....Hmmm, maybe it's Prongman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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