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44 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

Whenever I hear a concern about fresh water I wonder about it.

That ocean is pretty big. If things get so desperate that countries would consider to go to war over water, I obviously hope that some developments in this field could occur first.

We were in Cabo San Lucas years ago and were told all the water in the resort was sourced from under the beach in front of the buildings. The salt water was strained thru the sand and filters to produce potable water. I had never heard of this before. 

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1 hour ago, JM_ said:

we have the tech now, Cali already has something like 12 of them in operation. Isreal I think is close to 1/2 of their water being produced this way.

 

The US doesn't have to take us over for fresh water. They already have Great Lakes and can stick a pipe in them anytime they want to. 

The Great Lakes Compact agreement passed by Geo Bush in 2008 gives Great Lakes border states and Ontario and Quebec veto power to large diversion of Great Lakes water. That said if the water is not moved out of state then border states can access the water. These exceptions are increasing each year.

 

The Ogallala Aquifer in the mid-west supplies water to 1/5 of all USA corn, wheat, cotton and cattle production. Some thought that populations will migrate to the water rather then pipe it out.  

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4 hours ago, Boudrias said:

The Great Lakes Compact agreement passed by Geo Bush in 2008 gives Great Lakes border states and Ontario and Quebec veto power to large diversion of Great Lakes water. That said if the water is not moved out of state then border states can access the water. These exceptions are increasing each year.

 

The Ogallala Aquifer in the mid-west supplies water to 1/5 of all USA corn, wheat, cotton and cattle production. Some thought that populations will migrate to the water rather then pipe it out.  

I think if the US wanted to, it would find a way around that agreement, I mean look what Trump did on aluminum e.g. I just don't think they'd need to take us over, they'd just take the water they wanted and there isn't anything we could really do about it. 

 

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3 minutes ago, JM_ said:

I think if the US wanted to, it would find a way around that agreement, I mean look what Trump did on aluminum e.g. I just don't think they'd need to take us over, they'd just take the water they wanted and there isn't anything we could really do about it. 

 

I know I sound like a broken record but my championing the energy sector was the only avenue I saw of preventing an almost inevitable takeover by the Americans. The revenue would have made Canada a far more independent force. I realize it would have guranteed nothing if the Americans used overt force. I admire the Americans for many things but the Canadian reality is that the USA has used us just as we have used them. The difference being that they are 10X bigger. 

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9 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

I know I sound like a broken record but my championing the energy sector was the only avenue I saw of preventing an almost inevitable takeover by the Americans. The revenue would have made Canada a far more independent force. I realize it would have guranteed nothing if the Americans used overt force. I admire the Americans for many things but the Canadian reality is that the USA has used us just as we have used them. The difference being that they are 10X bigger. 

I'm hoping we can make up for some of that in mining, given the boost in EV production. We could be a significant player in this area: https://home.kpmg/ca/en/home/insights/2022/06/how-canada-could-become-a-global-powerhouse-in-ev-production.html

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14 minutes ago, JM_ said:

I'm hoping we can make up for some of that in mining, given the boost in EV production. We could be a significant player in this area: https://home.kpmg/ca/en/home/insights/2022/06/how-canada-could-become-a-global-powerhouse-in-ev-production.html

There is also the opportunity to sell Europe more Canadian LNG, and perhaps some updated Candu reactors.

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On 8/2/2022 at 2:27 PM, JM_ said:

Bill Gates was financing a proto type small reactor model. It was to be built in China but I have not heard if it is moving forward. 

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On 8/2/2022 at 8:30 AM, Boudrias said:

We were in Cabo San Lucas years ago and were told all the water in the resort was sourced from under the beach in front of the buildings. The salt water was strained thru the sand and filters to produce potable water. I had never heard of this before. 

Who the hell drinks water, when you're in Cabo? :unsure:

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On 8/2/2022 at 1:50 PM, JM_ said:

I think if the US wanted to, it would find a way around that agreement, I mean look what Trump did on aluminum e.g. I just don't think they'd need to take us over, they'd just take the water they wanted and there isn't anything we could really do about it. 

 

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Thought about posting this to the BC Real Estate thread, but I think it fits better here in the WET.

 

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Conspiracy theory about 'new world order' won't save Vancouver home from foreclosure, judge rules

Karen Lew claimed her mortgage debt was forgiven because of a non-existent law called NESARA/GESARA

 
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Bethany Lindsay · CBC News · Posted: Aug 08, 2022 4:00 AM PT | Last Updated: 6 hours ago
 
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According to people who believe the NESARA/GESARA conspiracy theory, new global currencies are being introduced, backed by gold. (Mike Groll/The Associated Press)

 

When Karen Wai King Lew told a B.C. judge that her mortgage debt had been completely forgiven, she invoked a two-decade-old conspiracy theory about a "new world order" that has recently resurfaced.

 

According to a recent B.C. Supreme Court ruling, Lew appealed a foreclosure order on her Vancouver home on the basis that something called NESARA/GESARA had been enacted and all credit card, mortgage and other bank debt would be wiped out in a "jubilee" of forgiveness.

 

"She described it as a pending new world order that has its roots in the United States (NESARA), but has evolved to a global movement (GESARA), to which many countries are signatories, including Canada," Justice Sharon Matthews wrote in her July 12 decision.

 

"She asserted that it involves resignation of world leaders, new currencies that will be backed by gold, and a more harmonious and peaceful world where the enslavement qualities of debt will be abolished."

 

Believers in this theory claim that NESARA, the National Economic Security and Reformation Act, was secretly passed by U.S. Congress in 2000 and set to be announced on Sept. 11, 2001. The theory is that all evidence was destroyed when a shadowy cabal of world leaders arranged for the attack on the World Trade Center in New York.

 

GESARA, the Global Economic Security and Reformation Act, is supposedly the worldwide version of the law.

 

Of course, none of that is true, and Lew's arguments had no effect in court.

 

"I have not accepted that NESARA/GESARA is part of the Canadian legal landscape. I do not accept that Ms. Lew has proven there is a new world order pending that will end foreclosure proceedings," Matthews wrote.

 

The judge upheld an order granting conduct of sale of Lew's home to the Bank of Montreal, and ordered her to pay costs to the bank, as well as a second mortgage-holder.

 

'Illuminati' blamed for supposed cover-up

 

Phoney legal theories based on fanciful interpretations of the law have seen a resurgence since the COVID-19 pandemic began, but this appears to be the first B.C. court decision in a NESARA/GESARA argument that has been posted publicly.

 

NESARA was a real proposal for a bill, created by an American man named Harvey F. Barnard, who laid out his ideas in a 1996 book entitled Draining the Swamp: Monetary and Fiscal Policy Reform.

 

People like Lew claim that NESARA has been law for more than 20 years, followed by international implementation of GESARA.

 

According to the website gesara.news, which Lew relied upon to make her arguments in court, former U.S. president Bill Clinton signed NESARA into law at gunpoint, but he supposedly knew "full well that the Illuminati were in charge, and that this law was never to be enforced."

 

 

It goes on to say that Sept. 11 attacks destroyed all the computers and data related to trillions of dollars in "Properity Funds" that were supposed to be returned to debtors across the country. Since then, the theory goes, all public officials, police, judges, journalists and anyone else who knows about NESARA have been subject to a gag order preventing them from exposing the existence of this supposed new order.

 

It's not mentioned in the court ruling, but the self-proclaimed "Queen of Canada," a B.C.-based QAnon conspiracy influencer named Romana Didulo, has announced on Telegram that she is rolling out NESARA/GESARA in Canada.

 

 
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The Bank of Montreal has been granted conduct of sale on Karen Lew's $1.7-million property at 2716 Waverley Ave., Vancouver. (Google Maps)
 
Lew, who represented herself in court, claimed that the balance on her mortgage was zero as of Feb. 8 because of NESARA/GESARA, the ruling says. But she didn't present any evidence of that in court, or that NESARA or GESARA had actually been implemented in Canada or B.C.
 
According to B.C. Assessment, Lew's home at 2716 Waverley Ave. was valued at $1.7 million in 2022. She purchased it for just $401,000 in 1998.
 
An order of foreclosure for the property was granted by B.C. Supreme Court Master Kimberley Robertson this spring, after the deadline to redeem the $209,721.51 bank mortgage debt had passed, according to the ruling.
 
Apart from arguing that her mortgage debts had been forgiven, Lew also claimed in her appeal that Robertson was biased when she ordered the foreclosure.
 
"She submitted that Master Robertson became a master because she knew that her law firm's foreclosure practice would be ending when all mortgages and other debts were forgiven," the ruling says.
 
Matthews found there was "no merit" to that claim.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/conspiracy-theory-new-world-order-vancouver-home-foreclosure-1.6543374

 

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