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1 minute ago, Mackcanuck said:

Hmmmm, We haven't played for like 2 weeks, Tied for a playoff spot

We play COL tomorrow night

Gonna be a big game!

 

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I thought the Avs were at the top of the standings?  They have guys having career years don’t they?  

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So with today's win, we have secured our playoff spot until Tuesday at least.

 

The next few days are interesting:

 

Sunday, Feb 3:

MTL Beats EDM in regulation

 

Monday, Feb 4:

TOR beats ANA in regulation

VAN beats PHI in regulation

ARI beats DAL in regulation

 

Tuesday, Feb 5:

BUF beats MIN in regulation

FLA beats STL in regulation

VAN beats WSH

MTL beats ANA in regulation

NSH Beats ARI in regulation

WPG Beats SJS in regulation

CBJ beats COL in regulation

CHI beats EDM in regulation

 

Best Case Scenario:

Pacific Division:

2: SJS: 54 GP / 67 PTS

3: VGK: 54 GP / 62 PTS

 

Wild Card:

1: VAN: 54 GP / 58 PTS

2: MIN: 53 GP / 56 PTS

3: ARI: 53 GP / 53 PTS

4: COL: 52 GP / 52 PTS

5: STL: 51 GP / 51 PTS

6: CHI: 54 GP / 51 PTS

7: ANA: 54 GP / 51 PTS

8: EDM: 53 GP / 50 PTS

 

Worst Case Scenario:

Pacific Division:

2: SJS: 54 GP / 69 PTS

3: VGK: 54 GP / 62 PTS

 

Wild Card:

1: MIN: 53 GP / 58 PTS

2: ARI: 53 GP / 55 PTS

3: ANA: 54 GP / 55 PTS

4: COL: 52 GP / 54 PTS

5: EDM: 53 GP / 54 PTS

6: VAN: 54 GP / 54 PTS

7: STL: 51 GP / 53 PTS

8: CHI: 54 GP / 49 PTS

 

Single Point Scenario:

Pacific Division:

2: SJS: 54 GP / 68 PTS

3: VGK: 54 GP / 62 PTS

 

Wild Card:

1: MIN: 53 GP / 57 PTS

2: VAN: 54 GP / 56 PTS

3: COL: 52 GP / 53 PTS

4: ARI: 53 GP / 53 PTS

5: ANA: 54 GP / 53 PTS

6; STL: 51 GP / 52 PTS

7: EDM: 53 GP / 52 PTS

8: CHI: 54 GP / 50 PTS

 

 

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Playoff implications for Thursday:

 

WSH beats COL in regulation

OTT beats ANA

DET beats VGK

TBL beats STL in regulation

NSH beats DAL

EDM beats MIN

VAN beats CHI

CBJ beats ARI

 

Best Case Scenario:

Pacific Division:

3: VGK - 56 GP / 64 PTS

 

Wild Card:

1: MIN - 54 GP / 57 PTS

2: VAN - 55 GP / 56 PTS

3: STL - 52 GP / 53 PTS

4: EDM - 54 GP / 53 PTS

5: COL - 53 GP / 52 PTS

6: ARI - 54 GP / 51 PTS

7: CHI - 55 GP / 51 PTS

8: ANA - 55 GP / 51 PTS

 

Worst Case Scenario:

Pacific Division:

3: VGK - 56 GP / 66 PTS

 

Wild Card:

1: MIN - 54 GP / 57 PTS

2: STL - 52 GP / 55 PTS

3: COL - 53 GP / 54 PTS

4: VAN - 55 GP / 54 PTS

5: ARI - 54 GP / 53 PTS

6: EDM - 54 GP / 53 PTS

7: CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

8: ANA - 55 GP / 53 PTS

 

One Point Case Scenario:

Pacific Division:

3: VGK - 56 GP / 65 PTS

 

Wild Card:

1: MIN - 54 GP / 56 PTS

2: VAN - 55 GP / 55 PTS

3: STL - 52 GP / 54 PTS

4: COL - 53 GP / 53 PTS

5: EDM - 54 GP / 53 PTS

6: CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7: ARI - 54 GP / 52 PTS

8: ANA - 55 GP / 52 PTS


 

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You know, i'd love to see playoff hockey again here, part of me doesn't, after years of watching us get beat on physically in the playoff's and taking it's toll on players which eventually caught up with us with not a lot of depth and bad contracts things looked grim but this time i'd rather see  how the rest of the season plays out and our roster somewhat healthy from not going to war post season and see what happens because if by some luck we did make it in, petey would have a double target on his back, let alone boeser too and maybe bo as well and we need a lot from them if we want to make a huge cup run in another year or three. As it stands unless JB can pull off trades that would beef up the team on forward and D, and with luck go into the second round but i suppose maybe it's just me with how our injury history has gone, worries me that we don't need any set backs to a roster that's just getting put together. Sure the experience would do our young guys but not at the injury expense, yeah i've been a 40 year fan and perhaps i'm more about the near future vs win now mindset but this is about a cup run soon after a few new signings and our youth getting used to more practice playing together which doesn't happen as much obviously when guys are out of action and we hardly need that 3/4ish deep in a rebuild. Meh so if we don't get in i really wouldn't be that disappointed in a way. 

 Might even add to more hunger for the playoffs next season.

 

 

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Playoff Implications:

 

Been a very bad week for the Canucks, let's look at Saturday's Scenarios:

 

NJD beats MIN in regulation

NYI beats COL in regulation

PHI beats ANA in regulation

NSH beats STL in regulation

DAL beats ARI in regulation

SJS beats EDM in regulation

VAN beats CGY in regulation

 

Best Case Scenario:

Wild Card Race:

1. MIN - 55 GP / 57 PTS

2. VAN - 56 GP / 57 PTS

3. STL - 53 GP / 55 PTS

4. COL - 54 GP / 53 PTS

5. EDM - 55 GP / 53 PTS

6. CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7. ARI - 55 GP / 51 PTS

8. ANA - 56 GP / 51 PTS

 

Worst Case Scenario:

Wild Card Race:

1. MIN - 55 GP / 59 PTS

2. STL - 53 GP / 57 PTS

3. COL - 54 GP / 55 PTS

4. EDM - 55 GP / 55 PTS

5. VAN - 56 GP / 55 PTS

6. ARI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7. CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

8. ANA - 56 GP / 53 PTS

 

One Point Scenario:

1. MIN - 55 GP / 58 PTS

2. STL - 53 GP / 56 PTS

3. VAN - 53 GP / 56 PTS

4. COL - 54 GP / 54 PTS

5. EDM - 55 GP / 54 PTS

6. CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7. ARI - 55 GP / 52 PTS

8. ANA - 56 GP / 52 PTS

 

One Point (Canucks) / Worst Case Scenario:

1. MIN - 55 GP / 59 PTS

2. STL - 53 GP / 57 PTS

3. VAN - 53 GP / 56 PTS

4. COL - 54 GP / 55 PTS

5. EDM - 55 GP / 55 PTS

6. ARI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7. CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

8. ANA - 56 GP / 53 PTS

 

One Point (Canucks) / Best Case Scenario:

1. MIN - 55 GP / 57 PTS

2. VAN - 56 GP / 56 PTS

3. STL - 53 GP / 55 PTS

4. COL - 54 GP / 53 PTS

5. EDM - 55 GP / 53 PTS

6. CHI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7. ARI - 55 GP / 51 PTS

8. ANA - 56 GP / 51 PTS

 

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I’m still hoping for no playoff and get a nice pick sell off some players and get more picks.. it’s very clear this team have no top 6 depth we boeser horvat and pettersson... goldobin cant stay in the lineup even though he’s the 4th point getter.. Virtanen is hot and very cold.. baertichi might not ever recover from the concussion.. and nothing in the minor looks like a can’t miss top 6.. same with defence we have Hughes and MAYBE juolevi but most have given up on him that if he makes it as a bottom 4 pairing it’s already a win. Please don’t waste horvat boeser and pettersson year by having the fake believe this team is a playoff team.. they are only in the bloody race coz all the teams not in top 5 sucks.. and it’s not even close.. 

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What a surge by St.louis , last in the league a month ago. 

Minnesota are about to drop off face of the earth. 

Will Colorado and Edmonton ever turn it around ? I have my doubts, Arizona or L.a. Could pass them with better play as of late.

Canucks have 2 very tough games coming up , even if they don’t turn up any points I still don’t think they’re done yet.

it seems like none of these teams are really going to be able to make a dent in the playoffs so none of them are committed to making it.

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2 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

I’m still hoping for no playoff and get a nice pick sell off some players and get more picks.. it’s very clear this team have no top 6 depth we boeser horvat and pettersson... goldobin cant stay in the lineup even though he’s the 4th point getter.. Virtanen is hot and very cold.. baertichi might not ever recover from the concussion.. and nothing in the minor looks like a can’t miss top 6.. same with defence we have Hughes and MAYBE juolevi but most have given up on him that if he makes it as a bottom 4 pairing it’s already a win. Please don’t waste horvat boeser and pettersson year by having the fake believe this team is a playoff team.. they are only in the bloody race coz all the teams not in top 5 sucks.. and it’s not even close.. 

So here is the "TANKER" mentality rearing its ugly head again. NEWSFLASH! There is more then one way to acquire players in the NHL, especially in a Cap Era. We have the beginnings of a pretty good team despite not stooping to lows that you are alluding to. Only losers "give up" and stop trying before the season is even over. 

I guess you are seeing more consistency in Goldy's game moreso then Jakes. Goldy is a floater and has no idea how to check, backcheck, forecheck or anything resembling a defensive game, hence the benchings. Jake has shored up his defensive game and is in the process of getting his offensive up to par with his defense. A way more complete NHL player then Goldy. In the playoffs, the difference would be very obvious between these two.

"Fake believe this is a playoff team"? Are you sure you are a Canuck fan?::D

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4 hours ago, EdgarM said:

So here is the "TANKER" mentality rearing its ugly head again. NEWSFLASH! There is more then one way to acquire players in the NHL, especially in a Cap Era. We have the beginnings of a pretty good team despite not stooping to lows that you are alluding to. Only losers "give up" and stop trying before the season is even over. 

I guess you are seeing more consistency in Goldy's game moreso then Jakes. Goldy is a floater and has no idea how to check, backcheck, forecheck or anything resembling a defensive game, hence the benchings. Jake has shored up his defensive game and is in the process of getting his offensive up to par with his defense. A way more complete NHL player then Goldy. In the playoffs, the difference would be very obvious between these two.

"Fake believe this is a playoff team"? Are you sure you are a Canuck fan?::D

Lol so what ways do you suggest to acquire top 6 talent? Trades? We don’t have any assets to trade for a top 6 or top 4 defenseman. Free agents? So over pair a player to come here? How have they worked out with the last 3 years? We are on pace for 82 points. This team is literally nothing without pettersson 3 cores top 6 and filling it with a bunch of plugs ain’t going to carry you look at  Edmonton. Look at most of the top teams majority of their players are drafted not thru trades or free agent. Stop being delusional a team that’s going to be hovering around 40 lost have no reason to be in the playoff to embarrass themselves it’s good they are playing competitive hockey but it’s terrible to squeeze in with 80 points and think we are ready to compete 

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10 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

Lol so what ways do you suggest to acquire top 6 talent? Trades? We don’t have any assets to trade for a top 6 or top 4 defenseman. Free agents? So over pair a player to come here? How have they worked out with the last 3 years? We are on pace for 82 points. This team is literally nothing without pettersson 3 cores top 6 and filling it with a bunch of plugs ain’t going to carry you look at  Edmonton. Look at most of the top teams majority of their players are drafted not thru trades or free agent. Stop being delusional a team that’s going to be hovering around 40 lost have no reason to be in the playoff to embarrass themselves it’s good they are playing competitive hockey but it’s terrible to squeeze in with 80 points and think we are ready to compete 

I agree with you in principle to a point but i instantly think of Carolina and Florida and lots of other teams who have acquired talent by being bad for a lengthy time... and they still can't do much. It just doesn't work that way by keep acquiring a couple decent players every year. Team chemistry and hot goaltending go a long ways as well. I wish i knew the answer as do you! A couple of years ago there was a thread on Calgary Flames and why they were no good and should be better etc. Some thought they were terrible and were going to get worse... now this year look at them! A coach a forward and dman and they are close to 1st overall. I would have never thought they would skid ferkland... no quick and easy solutions. I actually think it is really important with the guys you get in the second, third, fourth rounds that turn into Nhl regulars that make a big difference.

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11 hours ago, wai_lai416 said:

Lol so what ways do you suggest to acquire top 6 talent? Trades? We don’t have any assets to trade for a top 6 or top 4 defenseman. Free agents? So over pair a player to come here? How have they worked out with the last 3 years? We are on pace for 82 points. This team is literally nothing without pettersson 3 cores top 6 and filling it with a bunch of plugs ain’t going to carry you look at  Edmonton. Look at most of the top teams majority of their players are drafted not thru trades or free agent. Stop being delusional a team that’s going to be hovering around 40 lost have no reason to be in the playoff to embarrass themselves it’s good they are playing competitive hockey but it’s terrible to squeeze in with 80 points and think we are ready to compete 

Where do you think this team finishes?  Things would have to go awfully bad from here forward to pick top 5, or we get crazy lucky in the lottery.  We are more likely going to be in the 10-15 range, or in the playoffs.  I'd much rather make the playoffs and pick 16th than miss and pick 10th.

 

I'd argue that for the most part, the UFA signings over the past couple of years have achieved exactly what they were designed to do.  We signed a bunch of plus to be just that, plugs, until the younger guys were ready to take over.  I'd say that has worked well.  Aside from Erikkson, all of them will be gone with no damage done by the time this team is ready to contend.  Young guys have earned some spots, and the plugs are starting to be moved out.

 

The Canucks have 30 million in cap space, and nobody other than Boeser will be getting a huge raise.  There is likely 8-10 Million to spend in UFA. Add Quin Hughes, and one or  two of Stone Karlsson, Duschene, Panarin, Skinner, Myers, Hayes, Ferland, Dzinkle, Nelson and this roster looks much different that past years.  

 

I couldn't be happier with where this team is at at this point in the year.

 

 

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1 hour ago, BCNate said:

Where do you think this team finishes?  Things would have to go awfully bad from here forward to pick top 5, or we get crazy lucky in the lottery.  We are more likely going to be in the 10-15 range, or in the playoffs.  I'd much rather make the playoffs and pick 16th than miss and pick 10th.

 

I'd argue that for the most part, the UFA signings over the past couple of years have achieved exactly what they were designed to do.  We signed a bunch of plus to be just that, plugs, until the younger guys were ready to take over.  I'd say that has worked well.  Aside from Erikkson, all of them will be gone with no damage done by the time this team is ready to contend.  Young guys have earned some spots, and the plugs are starting to be moved out.

 

The Canucks have 30 million in cap space, and nobody other than Boeser will be getting a huge raise.  There is likely 8-10 Million to spend in UFA. Add Quin Hughes, and one or  two of Stone Karlsson, Duschene, Panarin, Skinner, Myers, Hayes, Ferland, Dzinkle, Nelson and this roster looks much different that past years.  

 

I couldn't be happier with where this team is at at this point in the year.

 

 

Finishing 15-10th is a push. They are in 20th now and have played the most games.

 

Really hard to predict where they land but they could end up in 25th very easily. I don't think they are really that improved I think a lot of teams are bad.

 

The last playoff spot is turning out to be a joke.

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6 hours ago, BCNate said:

Where do you think this team finishes?  Things would have to go awfully bad from here forward to pick top 5, or we get crazy lucky in the lottery.  We are more likely going to be in the 10-15 range, or in the playoffs.  I'd much rather make the playoffs and pick 16th than miss and pick 10th.

 

I'd argue that for the most part, the UFA signings over the past couple of years have achieved exactly what they were designed to do.  We signed a bunch of plus to be just that, plugs, until the younger guys were ready to take over.  I'd say that has worked well.  Aside from Erikkson, all of them will be gone with no damage done by the time this team is ready to contend.  Young guys have earned some spots, and the plugs are starting to be moved out.

 

The Canucks have 30 million in cap space, and nobody other than Boeser will be getting a huge raise.  There is likely 8-10 Million to spend in UFA. Add Quin Hughes, and one or  two of Stone Karlsson, Duschene, Panarin, Skinner, Myers, Hayes, Ferland, Dzinkle, Nelson and this roster looks much different that past years.  

 

I couldn't be happier with where this team is at at this point in the year.

 

 

We are really only 4 points from dead last in the conference so doesn’t really need a disaster to finish there. As for the ufa I don’t really see how u can sigh 2 of them for 8-10 mil the top tier will be 8-10 mil alone. And the bottom tier meh is just bottom tier nothing spectacular that will turn the team into a contender. I don’t mind them playing good competitive hockey but let’s not be delusional this team is good enough to be contending when it’s really still a few years away

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Playoff Implications:

 

Sun, Feb 10:

NSH Beats STL in regulation

DET beats CHI in regulation

BOS beats COL in regulation

NYI beats MIN in regulation

 

Mon, Feb 11:

VAN Beats SJS

 

Best Case Scenario:

Wild Card:

1: MIN - 56 GP / 59 PTS

2: VAN - 57 GP / 59 PTS

3: STL - 54 GP / 57 PTS

4: COL - 55 GP / 54 PTS

5: ARI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

6: EDM - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7: CHI - 56 GP / 53 PTS

 

Worse Case Scenario:

Wild Card:

1: MIN - 56 GP / 61 PTS

2: STL - 54 GP / 59 PTS

3: VAN - 57 GP / 57 PTS

4: COL - 55 GP / 56 PTS

5: CHI - 56 GP / 55 PTS

6: ARI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7: EDM - 55 GP / 53 PTs

 

One Point Scenario:

Wild Card:

1: MIN - 56 GP / 60 PTS

2: STL - 54 GP / 58 PTS

3: VAN - 57 GP / 58 PTS

4: COL - 55 GP / 55 PTS

5: CHI - 56 GP / 54 PTS

6: ARI - 55 GP / 53 PTS

7: EDM - 55 GP / 53 PTS

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