buddyguy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Irfaan Gaffar has been filling in for Alex Auld on Canucks Central at noon and mentioned that the Canucks will make a push to sign Jake Gardiner on July 1st. The contract offer could be around 5-6 years. I thought it would be a good time to post this here and get your feedback about signing Jake Gardiner. Does this mean we trade Hutton or Juolevi? How much would you be willing to pay him? I personally hope we try and sign Karlsson but if that doesn't happen then I think Gardiner is a good B option. Let me know your thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Why on earth would JB do that? Gardiner is the last thing this team needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 We’ll have the cap space for both Gardiner and Karlsson, and with how Benning talked about changing the defense, why not both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 UFA 2nd pair leaky D is likely a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Why???!??!?!?! He's so bad I don't care if he puts up points. This guy cannot defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I would far rather sign a UFA forward and trade for a young D under club control. D are slim pickings this offseason and will be highly overpaid. Better to get a jump on folks and make a trade for a couple. Lee and Panarin up front Any of Ristolainen, Liljegren, Pesce, Provorov, Hamilton, etc on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Well if this is true how can they be serious about extending Edler unless they know Edler won't be back. Would make absolutely no sense unless Hutton is gone and they have no faith in Juolevi and would need both Edler and Gardiner next year. EDIT: Wonder if they are planning on playing Hughes on the RD side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Borvat said: Well if this is true how can they be serious about extending Edler unless they know Edler won't be back. Would make absolutely no sense unless Hutton is gone and they have no faith in Juolevi and would need both Edler and Gardiner next year. It is complete non sense. Gardiner is a huge downgrade from Edler and will cost more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 If this is true then that likely means that Edler is not coming back so Benning will have to sign a UFA Dman to make up the difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingleThorn Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Good way to nudge Edler towards signing ! There's probably only room for one of them. Real or a bluff ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generational.EP40 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If this is true then that likely means that Edler is not coming back so Benning will have to sign a UFA Dman to make up the difference... Only thing I can think of, even then it’s not like we couldn’t live without a replacement like Gardiner. Already have excess of LHD. Imo go big or go home. Our right side is weak so go all in for Erik Karlsson. I’m not too sure about these fringe 2nd pair guys who will be classic cases of UFA overpays and whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 After scorching the earth, need a competent Gardiner? it's possibly more evolved that David Booth's hunter-gatherer, questionable approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Hmm, rumours to bring in a top 4 LD. Could this persuade Edler to accept what Benning's offering? I'm assuming Edler wants term (5 years?) and a NMC, so maybe he settles for 3 years with a NTC? Edler really wants to stay in VAN. But even if he's claimed by the Butt Kracken it's a short drive home. But back to Gardiner. I never realized how many points he gets, but from the games I've watched, he makes quite a few mistakes. My first thought was no, not a fan. He could be expensive (salary and term) and if he doesn't produce in Vancouver, then his contract could become an anchor. Then again, TOR could be going to the 2nd round and he'll have played a part. I'm really going to have to watch his play tonight, I haven't paid close enough attention. I think they need a RD more, especially if they re-sign Edler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 This makes no sense at all. The team looks to be positioned to re-sign Edler. Can provide a better all-round game then Gardiner who can put up numbers. Juolevi ? I again don't see the sense in trading him. He is going to be a relied upon top four on this club for years who can add offense. He did very well in Utica before his injury and should be in the Canucks plans moving forward. Maybe the team could afford to package Hutton in a deal to upgrade but I don't foresee Juolevi being dealt away and I expect Edler to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Generational.EP40 said: Only thing I can think of, even then it’s not like we couldn’t live without a replacement like Gardiner. Already have excess of LHD. Imo go big or go home. Our right side is weak so go all in for Erik Karlsson. I’m not too sure about these fringe 2nd pair guys who will be classic cases of UFA overpays and whatnot. I don't want us to sign Gardiner personally. I'd rather go with Myers on the right side. We do have enough left D even without Edler. I don't think Karlsson is an option at this point. $11 miilion over 7 years is what it will take and most likely he re-signs with San Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Would MUCH rather Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generational.EP40 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don't want us to sign Gardiner personally. I'd rather go with Myers on the right side. We do have enough left D even without Edler. I don't think Karlsson is an option at this point. $11 miilion over 7 years is what it will take and most likely he re-signs with San Jose. Even Myers, in the same sort of boat as Gardiner me thinks. Advanced stats show they are very overrated as well for the price tag they’ll command come July1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Generational.EP40 said: Even Myers, in the same sort of boat as Gardiner me thinks. Advanced stats show they are very overrated as well for the price tag they’ll command come July1 Most UFA's will be overpaid, we have one on the team right now. It's the nature of the beast. You get someone for free but you have to overpay to get him. Myers at least has size and strength and can kill penalties so he could be a 3rd pairing guy towards the end of his contract. Gardiner is either in your top 4 or he's out of the game, so a better risk with Myers. But I would agree that both players will be overpaid this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 would much rather retain as much cap moving forward to use on younger players if nucks are minded to draft a higher end dman this offseason and he pans out then if all things fall into place, we'd have that dman, hughes, joulevi, and woo as our very young upcoming d core we also have stetcher and hutton under club control.. not sure we need to pay for an expensive long term ufa d contract i think a trade for a young upside dman makes more sense i appreciate this will cost an asset but salary cap issues are going to be a very big problem in the near future look at toronto, black hawks, tampa, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 LMAO hahaha. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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