Timråfan Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, aGENT said: Never mind that he's basically been stealing from Aqua for the last three years. Something tells me he has little desire to help 'top him up'. This is just pure bull$&!#... Talk to Benning about Louis salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: So, if you look at the article about the possibility of Buff retiring, it specifically states that if he retires, his Cap hit would be removed from the team. Remember, this is an option with Eriksson if he doesn't make the team. He's been paid the majority of his salary from this contract, he could just choose to retire from the NHL if no other teams are willing to pick him up and his other option is to go to Utica. or he makes the team, plays his 10-12 mins a night and does his part in getting the team to the playoffs. Not only is it an option, it's the most likely outcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Timråfan said: This is just pure bull$&!#... Talk to Benning about Louis salary. He's been paid $27m and done about $6m worth of work for it the last three years. You can call that whatever you want but if that was a builder working for Aqua, you can bet he wouldn't be building any more condos for him and he certainly wouldn't be getting 'topped up'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, stawns said: or he makes the team, plays his 10-12 mins a night and does his part in getting the team to the playoffs. Not only is it an option, it's the most likely outcome. So which more deserving player gets sent down to Utica to make room for this lazy piece of garbage? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Timråfan said: This is just pure bull$&!#... Talk to Benning about Louis salary. A contract goes two ways. The player agrees to play to his level of ability. The GM pays according to said ability. Loui by years previous to his signing showed an ability the gained him good faith that the contract he recieved could be lived up to. Saying it is Bennings fault the player did not show up to play is completely wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 In our world, If you hire me to do a job and I do not do it or change it significantly, generally you can sue me or take some sort of action against me. In the hockey world, the fans howl and call for the GM's head. The said GM can then lose his job because the player failed to show. Hardly fair but that is the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, aGENT said: He's been paid $27m and done about $6m worth of work for it the last three years. You can call that whatever you want but if that was a builder working for Aqua, you can bet he wouldn't be building any more condos for him and he certainly wouldn't be getting 'topped up'. So you think Aquilini would stop paying the builder? Get real... A contract is a contract. Loui was paid to be a top 6 winger. If the coach doesn't play him as a top 6 winger it isn't Louis fault. Other posters have explained how Loui plays and what is needed to let Loui play a top 6 role. That isn't Louis fault either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 32 minutes ago, King Heffy said: So which more deserving player gets sent down to Utica to make room for this lazy piece of garbage? He's actually played decent and had a solid effort so far this preseason and for the 569th time you CAN NOT play defence at the level he has played being lazy or garbage. Try sticking to actual facts for a change. Literally the only thing wrong with Eriksson’s game is he is not scoring and a $6mil player needs to produce like or near one. Effort is NOT and issue, being lazy is NOT an issue because again you can't play that level of defence lacking effort or being lazy. Loui needs to start scoring period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 44 minutes ago, stawns said: or he makes the team, plays his 10-12 mins a night and does his part in getting the team to the playoffs. Not only is it an option, it's the most likely outcome. You do not get invited to many party’s do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: So which more deserving player gets sent down to Utica to make room for this lazy piece of garbage? I can't imagine what kind of person you must be to talk about a player, or another human being that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 43 minutes ago, Filthy McNasty said: You do not get invited to many party’s do you how so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, FaninMex said: A contract goes two ways. The player agrees to play to his level of ability. The GM pays according to said ability. Loui by years previous to his signing showed an ability the gained him good faith that the contract he recieved could be lived up to. Saying it is Bennings fault the player did not show up to play is completely wrong. It's no one's fault, it's just the way things have worked out. He's got three more years left and if they can't move him or he doesn't retire, he's a member of the team and they will make the best of it. He still adds an important element to the team by playing defensive mins and being solid on the pk. Preventing goals is just as important as scoring them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, aGENT said: He's been paid $27m and done about $6m worth of work for it the last three years. You can call that whatever you want but if that was a builder working for Aqua, you can bet he wouldn't be building any more condos for him and he certainly wouldn't be getting 'topped up'. If that builder signed a binding contract for a fixed term and showed up for work every day and did his work, regardless of the quality of the work produced, there's not much a boss could do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Timråfan said: So you think Aquilini would stop paying the builder? Get real... A contract is a contract. Loui was paid to be a top 6 winger. If the coach doesn't play him as a top 6 winger it isn't Louis fault. Other posters have explained how Loui plays and what is needed to let Loui play a top 6 role. That isn't Louis fault either. Aquilini has a rep for not workers not getting paid. Blueberry pickers especially. Loui has no one to blame but himself for his completely unacceptable level of play. In order for him to belong on a top six role, he needs to stop floating and actually go to the dirty areas. He seems unwilling to do so, preferring to blame everyone but himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, stawns said: or he makes the team, plays his 10-12 mins a night and does his part in getting the team to the playoffs. Not only is it an option, it's the most likely outcome. That is ALWAYS an option. I don't think he's looked bad, but he had a lot of motivation coming into camp. Let's see if it keeps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, stawns said: It's no one's fault, it's just the way things have worked out. He's got three more years left and if they can't move him or he doesn't retire, he's a member of the team and they will make the best of it. He still adds an important element to the team by playing defensive mins and being solid on the pk. Preventing goals is just as important as scoring them. He's a member of the team until he's not. Thus people are advocating trading him, waiving him, etc. 6M cap hit for being defensively sound and not scoring doesn't really make sense. If he makes the cut, then fine. TG must see that he still has some worth to the team and is ahead of the others that were cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, stawns said: or he makes the team, plays his 10-12 mins a night and does his part in getting the team to the playoffs. Not only is it an option, it's the most likely outcome. boooooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: He's actually played decent and had a solid effort so far this preseason and for the 569th time you CAN NOT play defence at the level he has played being lazy or garbage. Try sticking to actual facts for a change. Literally the only thing wrong with Eriksson’s game is he is not scoring and a $6mil player needs to produce like or near one. Effort is NOT and issue, being lazy is NOT an issue because again you can't play that level of defence lacking effort or being lazy. Loui needs to start scoring period. His effort hasn't been awesome, but it has been ok - let's not forget his age.. and it's not like he can magically turn into a Roussel, just because his hands have turned to stone. it would, however, help ease the pain of his lack of offensive production.. at least we could see some bang for the buck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 2 hours ago, FaninMex said: In our world, If you hire me to do a job and I do not do it or change it significantly, generally you can sue me or take some sort of action against me. In the hockey world, the fans howl and call for the GM's head. The said GM can then lose his job because the player failed to show. Hardly fair but that is the world. and sadly in Our world, there are tons of self-promoters who are so damn good at acting busy and looking knowledgeable and important!! These peeps take credit off your hard work and keep on moving up just becoz they are soooooooo good at BS'ing and producing fancy slideshows to Management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, BPA said: He's a member of the team until he's not. Thus people are advocating trading him, waiving him, etc. 6M cap hit for being defensively sound and not scoring doesn't really make sense. If he makes the cut, then fine. TG must see that he still has some worth to the team and is ahead of the others that were cut. In no way am I happy that a bottom six player is taking up $6m in cap space. However, at the time that was market value for LE and he was a player that JB knew and JB knows his stuff. It is what it is and there's not a whole lot to be done about.........he's a solid bottom 6 fwd and a pretty good penalty killer, and as long as he's capable there I don't see FA being too keen on paying him to play in Utica. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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