Baer. Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Juolevi, Woo, Who? Just joking around here. Didn't Benning just say that Juolevi has yet to start skating? He has been skating for a while now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Baer. said: He has been skating for a while now Just over two weeks. Been looking good by all accounts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJP Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Spitfire_Spiky said: Stecher can definitely hold his own on the 3rd pairing with a good matchup game being played. Its when he inevitably gets pushed up the lineup due to injuries that may cause some trouble That's fair, I agree Would you say this is a solid lineup as a playoff team? Assuming we get a solid top4 RHD and a decent bottom paring guy or Schenn Edler - D from Trade Hughes - Tanev Free Agent D - Stecher Juoelevi - Schenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Fanuck said: IMO, we need a 'Roussel' type guy on defence who can play regular minutes and who can make the occasional forward on the opposing team accountable for their actions if you will. We lacked a certain element to our game once Roussel went down with injury in my view. A guy who can play a relentless, tenacious game with physicality is exactly what we need on defence. I'm of the exact same mind. Who do you think would check those boxes? I'm a fan of trading for Brendan Dillon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Juolevi’s ONLY chance to stick on the main roster is as a PP specialist (his skill level here is already good enough for the NHL). Defensively, he’s Pouliot bad. Better for him to spend a full season on the Comets to learn to play when he doesn’t have the puck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Juolevi, Woo, Who? Just joking around here. Didn't Benning just say that Juolevi has yet to start skating? Started a week ago, from my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, Fanuck said: IMO, we need a 'Roussel' type guy on defence who can play regular minutes and who can make the occasional forward on the opposing team accountable for their actions if you will. We lacked a certain element to our game once Roussel went down with injury in my view. A guy who can play a relentless, tenacious game with physicality is exactly what we need on defence. Agreed and this has been a concern for awhile. Dorsett tried his darndest too there was just not enough support for him. Definitely a "NEED" on our team, especially with our smaller, younger players coming up. These type of players are crucial in the playoffs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 41 minutes ago, Spitfire_Spiky said: Stecher can definitely hold his own on the 3rd pairing with a good matchup game being played. Its when he inevitably gets pushed up the lineup due to injuries that may cause some trouble I am looking for a dman that can do more then "hold his own". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire_Spiky Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 50 minutes ago, JJP said: That's fair, I agree Would you say this is a solid lineup as a playoff team? Assuming we get a solid top4 RHD and a decent bottom paring guy or Schenn Edler - D from Trade Hughes - Tanev Free Agent D - Stecher Juoelevi - Schenn That's tough to say. It will really depend on who fills those spots. That lineup could put a team into the playoff but we would need to see career years from at least half of them if we wanted to make a significant run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, EdgarM said: I am looking for a dman that can do more then "hold his own". You either draft them or hand out huge chunks of money in the free agent market (likely with a protection clause of some kind). Doing it via trade will cost too much as D carry a premium price. Edited June 20, 2019 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJP Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: You either draft them or hand out huge chunks of money in the free agent market (likely with a protection clause of some kind). Doing it via trade will cost too much as D carry a premium price. I agree we should sign Gardiner/Myers Get a 3rd pairing guy for Grandlund / Sutter And get a top 6 forward for a pick + virtanen/goldy + Baertschi Pearson Horvat Boes Leivo Petey [?] Rousell Gaudette Virt LE Beagle Motte Edler UFA Hughes Tanev ? Stech Schenn Edited June 20, 2019 by JJP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: You either draft them or hand out huge chunks of money in the free agent market (likely with a protection clause of some kind). Doing it via trade will cost too much as D carry a premium price. Right now "Cap Space" is the advantage and disadvantage. It is to our advantage right now and it opens up a lot of opportunities that would usually not be available. I like our chances of getting what we need without giving up too much of anything, especially with the possibility that the Cap is going DOWN this year. YESSSS!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Robinson, Savard, and Lapoint? Eddy, OJ, and Hughes?? Larry Robinson is one of the greatest defencemen to ever play the game. One of the toughest SOB's as well. Nobody ever wanted a piece of him. Edler couldn't hold his jockstrap... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: I'm of the exact same mind. Who do you think would check those boxes? I'm a fan of trading for Brendan Dillon. Dillon may be in the right mold but isn't a guy I can see fully meeting the need in that he's slower, less skilled and less mobile than desired unfortunately. Top 4/6 defencemen who are mobile, smart and physical aren't easy to get. We don't even need much scoring from this guy if he does the rest well. This is as big a team need as anything else imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Fanuck said: Dillon may be in the right mold but isn't a guy I can see fully meeting the need in that he's slower, less skilled and less mobile than desired unfortunately. Top 4/6 defencemen who are mobile, smart and physical aren't easy to get. We don't even need much scoring from this guy if he does the rest well. This is as big a team need as anything else imo. Not every player needs to be fast or super skilled. Having a couple of atypical bruising players is always good for a defense. Who would you go after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 14 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Who would you go after? Wondering if there could be an interest-based deal to be had with Vegas. Perhaps taking on Clarksons contract (or another premium priced guy on a shorter term deal) and package that with Hague? Vegas desperately needs cap space but already is flush with picks so maybe a pick swap involving Hague? Hague isn't the exact player we need right now but projects to be that guy when our core is truly maturing. There's a couple other guys but that's a rabbit hole if you know what I mean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Really doubt Olli be in the starting lineup since it sounds like Benning is making a push to sign at least 1 another defenceman. Could see him getting a call up later in the season with injuries. Woo is still 1-2 years from the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 We need either Juolevi or Woo to pan out or JB will be overpaying for a UfA Dman. IMO for us to succeed, we need to have 1-2 players from each draft to be a difference maker to be a legitimate contender. The last five cup winners have had huge contributions from their own drafted players.Blues (Schwartz, Pietrangelo, Binnington, Parayko, Edmundson, Thomas) Caps ( Ovie, Backstrom, Kuzy, Holtby, Wilson, Beagle) Pens (Sid, Gino, Letang, Murray, Guentzel) Hawks (Toews, Kane , Kieth, Seabrook,) cant depend on UFA’s or trades to take us to the promised lad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Juolevi’s ONLY chance to stick on the main roster is as a PP specialist (his skill level here is already good enough for the NHL). Defensively, he’s Pouliot bad. Better for him to spend a full season on the Comets to learn to play when he doesn’t have the puck. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 hours ago, PhillipBlunt said: I'm of the exact same mind. Who do you think would check those boxes? I'm a fan of trading for Brendan Dillon. Since the Sharks traded Braun, they need Dillon for their 2nd pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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