Popular Post EternalCanuckFan Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 No way to know how far off Jake was from his goals over the summer so all we can do is wait and see how he otherwise performs at camp and pre-season. If Jake is noticeably and continually gassed at the end of shifts like he was in previous seasons (but improved on last season), then there may be some cause for concern. The improvement in that side of Jake's conditioning seemed to help him take positive steps forward last season. Jake seems to be a guy who may always struggle a bit with some physical conditioning so I would be more curious about how far off he might be from where he needs to be and whether he can get there by the end of camp or early in the season. I get concerns that Jake might not be preparing enough in pre-season but, I don't know, I just don't get the sense that Jake is not putting in work. If Jake is in fact off on some targets, then it could be that he still hasn't found a good system to help him maintain his conditioning and that's something both Jake, the training staff and any personal consultants Jake may have will need to work on for his long term success. Again though, without any information about what the issues may be, I'm just interested to see how he does over the rest of training camp and into pre-season. 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuzy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 hours ago, 250Integra said: anyone know which hotel they're staying at in Victoria? From a buddy who works there... The Empress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, garthsbutcher said: If it is confirmed that he has come in out of shape AGAIN, then trade him to an unsuspecting gm who thinks this kid gives a rat ass about being a pro. Why? He's still a valued member of the team as proven by Green's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: He's a professional hockey player in a contract year. The team brought in two players who can play the same way he can and he still comes in out of shape? Come on man.... Last summer he seemed to make a big commitment to conditioning and skill training. Maybe thats why he had a decent start. I know he is young but some guys have the drive to constantly improve and be better players. Jake doesn't have that yet and he may never have it.... If it is a contract year, why worry. If the goal was simply fat or do not be fat and he failed then next year his contract will be cheap which means more money on the table for Petty etc... See Jake is just being a team player. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDangles Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: If the between the lines message is he showed up to camp out of shape, then I honestly dont know what to do with this kid. I've been so disappointed over the years. Yes, there have been some positive moments, but way too many negatives. Way too inconsistent and coasting like he could give a s**t Tired of the same people defending him, saying he will come around, PF's take longer to develop etc. I wouldnt even give him the season. If by xmas break he hasn't put it together then take a 2nd rounder for him and move on. Jake, You've been put on notice 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Thanks CRAZY, and glad to see that Thomas Drance is providing quotes without opinion regarding Jake, to douse the speculation. Douse speculation... It is just getting started. Let it pour. Edited September 13, 2019 by FaninMex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: He's a professional hockey player in a contract year. The team brought in two players who can play the same way he can and he still comes in out of shape? Come on man.... Last summer he seemed to make a big commitment to conditioning and skill training. Maybe thats why he had a decent start. I know he is young but some guys have the drive to constantly improve and be better players. Jake doesn't have that yet and he may never have it.... there's a whole lot of speculation happening here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post audiodave Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, stawns said: he'll be fine, that's just how TG handles Jake, he has always used tough love with him, right from Utica. TG knows how to get through to Jake. Nothing to see here, imo. My first thought was maybe this is his punishment for missing his media availability yesterday. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, stawns said: there's a whole lot of speculation happening here. He is with the 3rd group because he is not in good shape. Not sure what I am speculating? Looking forward to another season of Jake taking 30 second shifts and being winded while his line mates stay out another 15 seconds..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Bloody embarrassing cant stand slackers with born ability that piss it away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Knucklehd said: Don't think they are allowed to. Green sets expectations at exit interviews and he mentioned in a interview that he checks in with them (calls them) a few times during the off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, audiodave said: My first thought was maybe this is his punishment for missing his media availability yesterday. certainly could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: He is with the 3rd group because he is not in good shape. Not sure what I am speculating? Looking forward to another season of Jake taking 30 second shifts and being winded while his line mates stay out another 15 seconds..... where did anyone say that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Now they leave the roster on the big screen?!? Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehd Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Virtanen's shot is looking good 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwood12 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Jake said himself that he just has to look at food and he gains weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, stawns said: where did anyone say that? “We both agreed that there were goals that had to be met, and if he didn’t reach them, then he probably wouldn’t be with the first two groups on the first day of camp.” - Travis Green on Jake Virtanen #Canucks 2:21 PM · Sep 13, 2019 from Victoria, British Columbia·Twitter for iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: “We both agreed that there were goals that had to be met, and if he didn’t reach them, then he probably wouldn’t be with the first two groups on the first day of camp.” - Travis Green on Jake Virtanen #Canucks 2:21 PM · Sep 13, 2019 from Victoria, British Columbia·Twitter for iPhone What were the goals? Post page 2 also please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, Chicken. said: Damn.... Huge Virtanen fan here but it isn't sounding good with this direct quote from Greener. He has all the physical gifts in the world, perhaps his mental game and commitment just isn't there. The kid wont learn. Seems like one of those guys that is happy to have just reached the NHL, and didnt really have goals past that. Doesn't seem to have that internal drive to be the best. He should have gotten the message by now . Very dissapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Hopefully Wellwood....I mean Jake, will be ready for the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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