Popular Post aGENT Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stelar said: “We both agreed that there were goals that had to be met, and if he didn’t reach them, then he probably wouldn’t be with the first two groups on the first day of camp.” - Travis Green on Jake Virtanen #Canucks 2:21 PM · Sep 13, 2019 from Victoria, British Columbia·Twitter for iPhone Yeah but that's lacking a lot of info and context. What were the goals? How close or far was he from them? Without that info your just making blind speculation and assumptions. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Stelar said: “We both agreed that there were goals that had to be met, and if he didn’t reach them, then he probably wouldn’t be with the first two groups on the first day of camp.” - Travis Green on Jake Virtanen #Canucks 2:21 PM · Sep 13, 2019 from Victoria, British Columbia·Twitter for iPhone and can you point out, exactly, where it says anything about being out of shape? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, FaninMex said: What were the goals? Post page 2 also please. You mean the part where he said "he is a big part of the team and nothing to read into"? We don't have to read into anything. He told us he didn't meet his fitness goals so is skating with the plugs... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, EternalCanuckFan said: No way to know how far off Jake was from his goals over the summer so all we can do is wait and see how he otherwise performs at camp and pre-season. If Jake is noticeably and continually gassed at the end of shifts like he was in previous seasons (but improved on last season), then there may be some cause for concern. The improvement in that side of Jake's conditioning seemed to help him take positive steps forward last season. Jake seems to be a guy who may always struggle a bit with some physical conditioning so I would be more curious about how far off he might be from where he needs to be and whether he can get there by the end of camp or early in the season. I get concerns that Jake might not be preparing enough in pre-season but, I don't know, I just don't get the sense that Jake is not putting in work. If Jake is in fact off on some targets, then it could be that he still hasn't found a good system to help him maintain his conditioning and that's something both Jake, the training staff and any personal consultants Jake may have will need to work on for his long term success. Again though, without any information about what the issues may be, I'm just interested to see how he does over the rest of training camp and into pre-season. we don't even know they were conditioning goals that weren't met. Someone made a great point that it could be because he missed the media shindig yesterday. Anyway, doesn't seem like TG thinks its anything big, it's just how he treats Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 CDC needs a chicken little emote 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Do the Canucks not follow up with these guys over the summer? I'd have monthly check ins. Shouldn't be a surprise. Should a professional athlete need to be "checked up on"? Do we really want guys who, "need to be checked up on" on our team? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Stelar said: You mean the part where he said "he is a big part of the team and nothing to read into"? We don't have to read into anything. He told us he didn't meet his fitness goals so is skating with the plugs... where does it say that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, stawns said: he'll be fine, that's just how TG handles Jake, he has always used tough love with him, right from Utica. TG knows how to get through to Jake. Nothing to see here, imo. He straight up said that if JV is in the third group it means he is not happy with his off season work... how is that nothing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: You mean the part where he said "he is a big part of the team and nothing to read into"? We don't have to read into anything. He told us he didn't meet his fitness goals so is skating with the plugs... Guess you missed that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, 'NucK™ said: He straight up said that if JV is in the third group it means he is not happy with his off season work... how is that nothing? he "straight up said" if goals weren't met........where does he say they were conditioning goals? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, stawns said: and can you point out, exactly, where it says anything about being out of shape? For a coach to say anything regarding his "fitness goals not being met" is not good. Obviously compared to the average Joe he is probably in decent shape. Just not NHL player shape like he needs to be. Not sure a coach would embarrass a third year NHL player by making him skate with the extras if he just missed his "goals". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: Yeah but that's lacking a lot of info and context. What were the goals? How close or far was he from them? Without that info your just making blind speculation and assumptions. Still not good, he was the only regular who got demoted to the third group. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Stelar said: You mean the part where he said "he is a big part of the team and nothing to read into"? We don't have to read into anything. He told us he didn't meet his fitness goals so is skating with the plugs... “We both agreed that there were goals that had to be met, and if he didn’t reach them, then he probably wouldn’t be with the first two groups on the first day of camp.” - Travis Green on Jake Virtanen #Canucks Where does it say fitness? I have been in MX for awhile maybe I missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: A new Sami Salo is born. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: For a coach to say anything regarding his "fitness goals not being met" is not good. Obviously compared to the average Joe he is probably in decent shape. Just not NHL player shape like he needs to be. Not sure a coach would embarrass a third year NHL player by making him skate with the extras if he just missed his "goals". when you use quotation marks, that implies it is a direct quote from the source.........is that exactly what TG said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: He straight up said that if JV is in the third group it means he is not happy with his off season work... how is that nothing? Don't waste your time. He thinks that unless the coach comes out and specifically says "he's out of shape" then he isn't buying it..... Maybe skating with the extras is a reward.... What do I know... He is on the first line in group three... Edited September 13, 2019 by Stelar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 @Knucklehd After reading all the posts regarding Virtanen, obvious the real question would be, how does he look on the ice?... Really hope not... But would be great with some actual facts (or as close to as possible) instead of more speculation... Think there is enough players being labeled without actual facts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Still not good, he was the only regular who got demoted to the third group. Maybe Green knows Virt responds to tough love. Maybe he held him to loft goals that were made to push him such as getting a quicker first step or... There are a huge amount of other goals out there. Remember there was a video posted a few days ago with him fishing. None of you commented on him being fat. Why is it starting now? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: A new Sami Salo is born. tell him to stay away from snakes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Knucklehd Posted September 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, spook007 said: @Knucklehd After reading all the posts regarding Virtanen, obvious the real question would be, how does he look on the ice?... Really hope not... But would be great with some actual facts (or as close to as possible) instead of more speculation... Think there is enough players being labeled without actual facts.... I was planning on writing something up about my observations. Decided to wait till the full session is finished. They are clearing the ice now for the second half, and the bag skate will be coming up soon. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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