canuck73_3 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just now, awalk said: From Wiki regarding re-entry waivers: "Exceptions are players who have played in over 320 professional games (180 for goaltenders) and have not spent more than 80 games on an NHL roster in the past two seasons or 40 games during the previous season." Sven only played 79 games over the past two seasons, but falls short of the 320 games (has played 285). So that means he will have to clear re-entry waivers to be recalled, correct? Meaning a team can grab him and only be on the hook for 50% of salary/cap hit? Re-entry waivers only apply to players signed after playing in europe/khl last season that weren't previously in your teams system. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said: Re-entry waivers only apply to players signed after playing in europe/khl last season that weren't previously in your teams system. From wiki: "With limited exceptions, any player who was subject to waivers before assignment to the minors must clear re-entry waivers before being called back up if said player is on a one-way contract or a two-way contract with an AHL salary in excess of $105,000." Not sure what is true, where are you sourcing your info? I believe any players signing from Europe have to clear normal waivers, not re-entry waivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Re-entry waivers are not part of the current CBA 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The Arizona Coyotes claimed goaltender Eric Comrie off waivers from the Winnipeg Jets on Tuesday, while the Jets claimed defenceman Carl Dahlstrom from the Chicago Blackhawks. All other players placed on waivers Monday cleared. Comrie was a restricted free agent this summer and signed a two-year deal with the Jets carrying $700,000 cap hit. The 24-year-old appeared in one game with the Jets last season, allowing five goals. The 2013 second-round pick posted a 25-20-2 record with the AHL's Manitoba Moose last season, recording a .917 save percentage and a 2.69 goals-against average. Dahlstrom, 24, had six assists in 38 games with the Blackhawks last season. The left-hand shot was also drafted in the second round of the 2013 NHL Draft by the Blackhawks. The Swedish blueliner carries a $850,000 cap hit and is signed through next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, awalk said: From wiki: "With limited exceptions, any player who was subject to waivers before assignment to the minors must clear re-entry waivers before being called back up if said player is on a one-way contract or a two-way contract with an AHL salary in excess of $105,000." Not sure what is true, where are you sourcing your info? I believe any players signing from Europe have to clear normal waivers, not re-entry waivers. Quote The 2005 NHL-NHLPA collective bargaining agreement (CBA) introduced "re-entry waivers." With limited exceptions, any player who was subject to waivers before assignment to the minors must clear re-entry waivers before being called back up if said player is on a one-way contract or a two-way contract with an AHL salary in excess of $105,000. Exceptions are players who have played in over 320 professional games (180 for goaltenders) and have not spent more than 80 games on an NHL roster in the past two seasons or 40 games during the previous season. The procedure to make a claim on re-entry waivers is the same; however, teams who claim players on re-entry waivers are only responsible for half the salary and cap hit, while the original team is responsible for the other half, unless the claimed player is later assigned to the AHL again before his contract has expired, in which case the salary and cap hit comes off the books of both teams. The CBA ratified in January 2013 eliminated re-entry waivers.[5] Just needed to read a little further there. Edited October 1, 2019 by Aladeen 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, awalk said: From wiki: "With limited exceptions, any player who was subject to waivers before assignment to the minors must clear re-entry waivers before being called back up if said player is on a one-way contract or a two-way contract with an AHL salary in excess of $105,000." Not sure what is true, where are you sourcing your info? I believe any players signing from Europe have to clear normal waivers, not re-entry waivers. They did away with re-entry waivers in the last CBA so that guys wouldn't get buried in the minors just so that their team didn't have to risk losing them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, coryberg said: Re-entry waivers are not part of the current CBA Cheers! Verified: https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-faq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Got it, thanks Gents. So this works out pretty well, we have a potential top-6 guy ready to be called up at any time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladeen Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Re-entry waivers only apply to players signed after playing in europe/khl last season that weren't previously in your teams system. I believe that is called "Return Waivers" now, btw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, dontaylorforprez said: Saw this and couldn’t help but laugh... Brilliantly played +10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Oh, I'm not talking about them. We still don't have room for Adam 'Earned it' Gaudette given he was a spare along with Eriksson yesterday. And that's before Roussel comes back. I'm not sure there's room on this team for all three of Virtanen, Leivo and Gaudette long term... yeah could be, I'd think Leivo would be most at risk, while Jake gets the best return (with AG being untouchable). I think all the angst yesterday was over mistaken ideas over roles. We actually have guys that are good at their role, not guys we need to try to fit into jobs they aren't suited for. Yes, Schaller and Beagle are better on a 4th line than Baer. Its actually a good thing imo that we actually have guys suited to their jobs. Which brings me to Jake... does he have a role on this team anymore thats suited to the skill set he's shown? Edited October 1, 2019 by Jimmy McGill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, spook007 said: Brilliantly played +10 Eriksson was coming off a 73 pt season in Dallas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, awalk said: From Wiki regarding re-entry waivers: "Exceptions are players who have played in over 320 professional games (180 for goaltenders) and have not spent more than 80 games on an NHL roster in the past two seasons or 40 games during the previous season." Sven only played 79 games over the past two seasons, but falls short of the 320 games (has played 285). So that means he will have to clear re-entry waivers to be recalled, correct? Meaning a team can grab him and only be on the hook for 50% of salary/cap hit? There are no re-entry waivers in the new CBA. That article is very outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: yeah could be, I'd think Leivo would be most at risk, while Jake gets the best return (with AG being untouchable). I think all the angst yesterday was over mistaken ideas over roles. We actually have guys that are good at their role, not guys we need to try to fit into jobs they aren't suited for. Yes, Schaller and Beagle are better on a 4th line than Baer. Its actually a good thing imo that we actually have guys suited to their jobs. Which brings me to Jake... does he have a role on this team anymore thats suited to the skill set he's shown? It’s becoming less clear imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, riffraff said: It’s becoming less clear imo. yeah me too. If he's a bottom 6 guy he's got some real competition for the 3rd line in particular. If he's destined for the 4th line I'd rather move him while other GMs might see some hope to turn him around. He isn't a fit on our top 6 unless Pearson poops the bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Poor Bear-cheese... hope you will like the bus rides and AHL motels and food... and hope Goldy is a good roommate too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: yeah could be, I'd think Leivo would be most at risk, while Jake gets the best return (with AG being untouchable). I think all the angst yesterday was over mistaken ideas over roles. We actually have guys that are good at their role, not guys we need to try to fit into jobs their aren't suited for. Yes, Schaller and Beagle are better on a 4th line than Baer. Its actually a good thing imo that we actually have guys suited to their jobs. Which brings me to Jake... does he have a role on this team anymore thats suited to the skill set he's shown? I'd generally agree re values and risk (and re: yesterday and roles). He can certainly still play a solid 2 way 3RW role (with occasional top 6 injury fill in) and possibly excel there (as he has in the past) but problem is, so can Leivo and Gaudette. I'm not so sure he's a great fit on the 4th line however (same with the other two)...would be similar to the square peg issue here with Baer. That leaves a little wiggle room with Roussel out to have a guy like Leivo filling in there for now. Leivo/Gaudette/Virtanen can potentially rotate those two winger spots until Roussel returns. But when that happens...something's got to give IMO. Perhaps we can package up one with Baer for something...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, mll said: Eriksson was coming off a 73 pt season in Dallas. True... But very funny nevertheless.... ... let's not be too serious. I'm delighted he cleared. Not sure if there was a single reason for him being put on waivers, or if was an amalgamation of all the issues... I don't think he fits well on the third line, and Benning had earmarked Pearson to play with Horvat. He has had injury problems, possibly 1 concussion away from retirement, £3.3mill for another 2 years etc.... Could be that he didn't particularly wanted rid of him, and this was the right time to wave him, thus having him for call up in case of injury? I know they say trade talk had been ongoing during summer, but whether he was part of a bigger deal idk.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: yeah me too. If he's a bottom 6 guy he's got some real competition for the 3rd line in particular. If he's destined for the 4th line I'd rather move him while other GMs might see some hope to turn him around. He isn't a fit on our top 6 unless Pearson poops the bed. Exactly he way I see it. I’m thinking another bottom pairing dman in a trade that has some size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 minute ago, riffraff said: Exactly he way I see it. I’m thinking another bottom pairing dman in a trade that has some size. We don't really need a bottom pair D though. Now if we're packaging Virtanen with say Tanev... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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