sonoman Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 2/13/2020 at 9:52 AM, -Vintage Canuck- said: 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Well that escalated quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WZRD Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 He should retire. Ferland could get concussed by just throwing a hit or getting hit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 That really sucks. Sit him for the rest of the season and send him back to Utica for a couple games prior to the playoffs. Guess we are going in on Simmonds after all... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igorwasgreat Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Very concerning for him, I hope he gets the right advice and takes it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazurus Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, WZRD said: He should retire. Ferland could get concussed by just throwing a hit or getting hit. Doesn't need to retire his contract is guaranteed 28 minutes ago, kloubek said: That really sucks. Sit him for the rest of the season and send him back to Utica for a couple games prior to the playoffs. Guess we are going in on Simmonds after all... He needs to sit out the rest of this season and next season and then maybe he might be okay, maybe. As far a Simmonds, just promote one of the AHL guys for the rest of the year, Gaudette maybe. He is still a replacement for other injured players this season. Don't sell more of the future for a guy whose game seems to have fallen off a cliff, that happens quite suddenly with a player who played like Simmonds 8 minutes ago, igorwasgreat said: Very concerning for him, I hope he gets the right advice and takes it. The right advice is not to fly, less air pressure swells the brain, just a fraction but all precautions should be taken, remember when Demko flew, it extended his symptoms a few weeks. And then take a long, long time off. Cash the guaranteed 4 years of money and try to relax, 12+mil should help 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelownaCanucksFan Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 That sucks for Ferland, now’s the time to forget hockey and just hope the guy can live a normal life outside of the game. I’ve been diagnosed with 9 concussions and wish I had listened to the doctors after number 5 to stop playing hockey, I’ll never have a normal life because of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patel Bure Posted February 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, KelownaCanucksFan said: That sucks for Ferland, now’s the time to forget hockey and just hope the guy can live a normal life outside of the game. I’ve been diagnosed with 9 concussions and wish I had listened to the doctors after number 5 to stop playing hockey, I’ll never have a normal life because of them. Completely agree. As much as I care about Ferland helping us, I care more about Michael the husband and the family man. I want the guy to have a long and healthy life. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleyCupOneDay Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I said this in another thread a while back and I’m sticking to it. He should hang up his skates. Dude’s young, got a whole life in front of him and risking his health further is just not worth it. We saw some great glimpses of what could have been, but sometimes luck and bad injuries derail a persons promising career in sports. Wish him the best in his future endeavors. A side note, I’ve been extremely pleased with management of this team since WD left and have made it known, but collectively how they’ve handled Ferland has been awful. Why even play him in Utica this season? What’s the rush? After the 2nd concussion out he needed to be done for the year, why they decided to put him in so soon is a complete mystery to me. And he got reinjured in the game, AGAIN. How many times does a group need to learn a lesson before changing what they’ve been doing? Incredibly frustrating to see and might have ruined a promising career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I wonder what the cap implications are for ferland’s situation. Can we put him on long term IR and save the money that we signed him to? Let’s forget getting ferland back we need to cut lost and not be trapped by this contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 This has also gotta be a lesson learned for clubs looking to sign players with concussion history. You just can’t commit unless there is clear evidence that he can do it. Ferland should’ve been signed to a one year league minimum kind of contract to begin with. He had the same issues last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Certainly has to be shut down for the year now at the very least. It would be irresponsible for them to even allow him on the ice at this point. it will cause us issues not knowing his status next year, but we will have to figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, ktcy2 said: I wonder what the cap implications are for ferland’s situation. Can we put him on long term IR and save the money that we signed him to? Let’s forget getting ferland back we need to cut lost and not be trapped by this contract He goes to Robidas Island, and we save 100% of his cap. There is nothing to see here. It’s a win for Furley; he collects all of his contract. It’s a win fir us. The cap goes poof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patel Bure Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Alflives said: He goes to Robidas Island, and we save 100% of his cap. There is nothing to see here. It’s a win for Furley; he collects all of his contract. It’s a win fir us. The cap goes poof. And it’s a win for the puck bunnies in Vancouver because once the Canucks trade for Wayne Simmonds (3rd rounder) with their newfound cap space, people can start debating as to who has the biggest egg-roll on the team: Tyler Myers or Wayne Simmonds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Always was against the length when they signed him due to his history. Now the Canucks will be in a rough spot for the duration of his contract.. sure u save his cap and get to spend it if u put him on LTIR.. but when he comes off of it the what? You'll have to move or trade players.. theres no guarantee hes willing to go on LTIR permanently so his cap is always going to linger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Alflives said: He goes to Robidas Island, and we save 100% of his cap. There is nothing to see here. It’s a win for Furley; he collects all of his contract. It’s a win fir us. The cap goes poof. Except if he doesn't retire permanently, we have to account for him on our books and assume he will be playing each season... so we can't use that money. The cap does not go poof either, he goes onto LTIR which still counts towards the cap... it just allows us to exceed that cap. It will cause problems with ELC bonuses next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Provost said: Except if he doesn't retire permanently, we have to account for him on our books and assume he will be playing each season... so we can't use that money. The cap does not go poof either, he goes onto LTIR which still counts towards the cap... it just allows us to exceed that cap. It will cause problems with ELC bonuses next year. Poof ... gone. Do we not get to use his cap space while he’s on Robidas Island? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just now, Alflives said: Poof ... gone. Do we not get to use his cap space while he’s on Robidas Island? Yes. We can use it for the rest of this season (assuming he gets shut down), but unless he decides to retire permanently on his own... we can't sign someone to replace him for next season because we have to assume he comes back. So, no we don't get to use his LTIR space. Nor can we use that LTIR space for something like paying Petterson's ELC bonus... so having Ferland on LTIR even next season means it is much more difficult not to push the ELC bonuses into the next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Provost said: We can use it for the rest of this season (assuming he gets shut down), but unless he decides to retire permanently on his own... we can't sign someone to replace him for next season because we have to assume he comes back. So, no we don't get to use his LTIR space. Nor can we use that LTIR space for something like paying Petterson's ELC bonus... so having Ferland on LTIR even next season means it is much more difficult not to push the ELC bonuses into the next year. We can go over the cap by 10% in the off season. Furley will not retire. He deserves that contract, and to cash in all of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, Provost said: We can use it for the rest of this season (assuming he gets shut down), but unless he decides to retire permanently on his own... we can't sign someone to replace him for next season because we have to assume he comes back. So, no we don't get to use his LTIR space. Nor can we use that LTIR space for something like paying Petterson's ELC bonus... so having Ferland on LTIR even next season means it is much more difficult not to push the ELC bonuses into the next year. No, he can be on season opening LTIR ala Clarkson, Hossa, Pronger, etc. You do not have to assume they will come back next season, so long as the Drs sign off that he will be continually injured until after the season starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, MattJVD said: No, he can be on season opening LTIR ala Clarkson, Hossa, Pronger, etc. You do not have to assume they will come back next season, so long as the Drs sign off that he will be continually injured until after the season starts That is entirely a different point. If he doesn’t decide that he is done permanently and keeps rehabbing for a return... you have to leave space for him to come back. You can’t sign someone to replace him because then you are screwed if he returns. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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