Rush17 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 They traded the better goaltender. harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: Too much money for a backup. I get that they want a backup that can play more games so Price isn’t burned out but that’s way too much money tied in goalies. Blues had to make a move to re-sign Pietrangelo so good deal for them. Looks like we’ll be seeing lots more Binnington They had the cap space and it cost them nothing to get him. Allen only has 1 year left. That gives Primeau time to develop then step in as a low cost back-up next season. Who cares if they have too much tied up in goaltending for one season. A rested Price and a backup they can actually expect to win games could allow them to have a very solid season. And once in the playoffs a rested Price is worth a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 So here is a question for everyone that is relatively on topic. This won't happen but if Carey Price was placed on waivers would you take him? Personally I wouldn't due to his age and remaining contract cost and duration. Begs the question to me based on that on whether Carey Price (With contract) has neutral value? Still one of the top goalies in the game still, but the contract is a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Rush17 said: They traded the better goaltender. harsh. Same cap hits, one is three years younger and won them a cup. Not a tough decision for the Blues even if he looked bad in our series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, Kobayashi Maru said: So here is a question for everyone that is relatively on topic. This won't happen but if Carey Price was placed on waivers would you take him? Personally I wouldn't due to his age and remaining contract cost and duration. Begs the question to me based on that on whether Carey Price (With contract) has neutral value? Still one of the top goalies in the game still, but the contract is a factor. Like you said. Won’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: They had the cap space and it cost them nothing to get him. Allen only has 1 year left. That gives Primeau time to develop then step in as a low cost back-up next season. Who cares if they have too much tied up in goaltending for one season. A rested Price and a backup they can actually expect to win games could allow them to have a very solid season. And once in the playoffs a rested Price is worth a lot They could have used that cap space for other areas that they need to fill. This does little to get them over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: They could have used that cap space for other areas that they need to fill. This does little to get them over the hump. I disagree. It addresses an area of real concern and does it in a way that frees up the cap space in a year. They’ll have some RFA’s to resign at that point. This leaves them the flexibility they need going forward while dramatically improving the team right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Has to be a cap dump. On straight value, that's an insane steal for the Canadiens. Allen is still a solid starter IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: I would imagine Pietrangelo is around 8.5 which is a 2 mil raise. To me their key focus would be trying to move out Bozak to reclaim the cap even if they have to pay to make him go away. If Pietrangelo asks for 10 then they would walk away 100%. I think they needed a solid 1B type goalie in Allen, so this could start the decline of St Louis already. I read an article on NHL.com not that long ago and he basically wants a full NMC. I think St.Louis will offer him with an 8 year front loaded, bonus heavy contract with an average around 8m. If he goes to FA he is going to easily get the same contract with a 10M average at 7 years. Colorado will be able to offer him well above market value if they really wanted to and he is a someone they desperately need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Good luck next year with Swimmington Blues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Has to be a cap dump. On straight value, that's an insane steal for the Canadiens. Allen is still a solid starter IMO. He is great in the bubble. Tends to struggle in large arenas at times. A great backup tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rush17 said: He is great in the bubble. Tends to struggle in large arenas at times. A great backup tho! He sometimes struggles with consistency, I'll give you that. In 2017-18 and 2018-19, he was quite underwhelming, but this last year in 2019-20, he did excel as a backup. You might be right that he'll struggle with 40+ games, but he was very good this year in his 24 games--better than Binnington, though of course Binnington had a much larger workload at 50 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 (edited) Very good trade for Montreal. Allen is not just a back-up but he can be a good 1A/1B tandem with Carey Price. Price still sharp when he is well rested. This also gives more time to Cayden Primeau, who will be there goalie of the future. Primeau can spend another year in development, and at the end of next season when Allen's contract is up and becomes a UFA, Primeau will be the back-up for Price. This could also mean that we get to light up Binnington every time we play the Blues from here onward Edited September 2, 2020 by ruilin96 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Allen is a great backup. Can take 25 + games of Price. Nice move IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, cuporbust said: Allen is a great backup. Can take 25 + games of Price. Nice move IMO A better rested price, is a better price. Maybe they learned that from living in the bubble lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 The Canadiens now have $15 million committed to 2 goalies over the next 2 years. This team needs a lot of things, and I don't see how carrying that much salary at goalie will get them where they want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Dixon Ward said: The Canadiens now have $15 million committed to 2 goalies over the next 2 years. This team needs a lot of things, and I don't see how carrying that much salary at goalie will get them where they want to be. 1 year not 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, qwijibo said: It’s only 1 season and Montreal has the cap space to make to move. It could pay huge dividends. Also. It was cheap because there was no retention or money going back to St Louis. There are enough teams desperate to shed cap that the space could be used a lot more wisely. there are probably a dozen Miller type deals out there to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, qwijibo said: This leaves them the flexibility they need going forward while dramatically improving the team right now. It helps Price, but it's a stretch to say Allen dramatically improves their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, mll said: 1 year not 2. Sorry I looked at it wrong. Still makes it tough to make improvements. I don't think any other team has anywhere near that much alotted to the goaltending position. Only 1 can play at a time so you are paying $15 for a goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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