hammertime Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Bure_Pavel said: A lot of Mock drafts have us picking Fabian Lysell. While I wouldnt be upset if they picked him, need wise he doesnt fit the bill at all unless we trade Boeser or Podkolzin. The people who are high of Lysell are very high on him, skill and skating seem to be elite, but size and positional need are red flags. Future top seven + top 4: ? - Petey - Boeser Hoglander - Horvat - Podkolzin 3rd line center? Hughes - ? ? - Schmidt We should probably draft a player that fits one of these needs unless management is confident a star is still available. The way I see it Miller Pete Boeser Hog Bo Motte? Pearson Svech/McT Pod Gad Lind? Mac I feel like this forward group gives teams fits getting out of their own end. Lysell would also really fit the mold. Sustained smothering pressure is the key to this teams success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Benning in interview has said "speed and skill" to add to our "top 9" multiple times, now we can think who we will realistically target at #9. Highly will be a forward. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, PositionOfPower said: Benning in interview has said "speed and skill" to add to our "top 9" multiple times, now we can think who we will realistically target at #9. Highly will be a forward. I'm targeting Lysell he's a rich man's Hoglander. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 hour ago, HighOnHockey said: Lol, you're excused. I do think it's not out of the realm of possibility that some teams (maybe including the Canucks) consider Ceulemans a top ten pick. Things seem to really open up somewhere around 8. Strong chance that Power, Beniers, Hughes, Edvinsson, Clarke, Eklund, Johnson, Guenther are all in the majority of teams' top eight, in some order. Some will definitely have Lysell, Wallstedt, Sillinger mixed in there, and maybe a few others, but most likely all of those players will be gone by 8 or shortly after, and at that point it's pretty much the wild west. Not that it is a argument for any draft, but it should be remembered that Ty Smith was picked 17th by NJ I also think Wallstedt will be picked in the top 8, so someone drops. it has been said that Sillinger is slow, but Lysell, McTavish and Ceulemans could be picked around 10 to 12 I am not an expert, but I think there is a top 8, a top 17 ish. A very interesting draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PositionOfPower Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, hammertime said: I'm targeting Lysell he's a rich man's Hoglander. No I prefer Johnson he has better iq and higher upside. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 My First Spin of the Draft Simulator. 2021 NHL Draft Lottery Simulator If Arizona is selected in top 2, there will be a re-draw. SIM LOTTERY RESET PICK TEAM RECORD PTS PPG RW STREAK L10 TOP 2 #1 OVR 1 8 Vancouver 23-29-4 50 0.893 17 Lost 1 4-5-1 11.1% 5.4% 2 1 Buffalo 15-34-7 37 0.661 11 Lost 2 3-7-0 31.6% 16.6% 3 1 Anaheim 17-30-9 43 0.768 11 Lost 2 3-5-2 23.8% 12.1% 4 1 Seattle 20.5% 10.3% 5 1 New Jersey 19-30-7 45 0.804 15 Lost 2 5-4-1 20.5% 10.3% 6 1 Columbus 18-26-12 48 0.857 12 Won 1 3-4-3 17.1% 8.5% 7 1 Detroit 19-27-10 48 0.857 16 Lost 1 3-3-4 15.4% 7.6% 8 1 San Jose 21-28-7 49 0.875 15 Lost 3 3-5-2 13.6% 6.7% 9 1 Los Angeles 21-28-7 49 0.875 19 Lost 5 3-6-1 11.8% 5.8% I don't think I will do it again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, PositionOfPower said: No I prefer Johnson he has better iq and higher upside. Agree to disagree on both counts. I have watched them both closely I love my BCHL boys Newhook, Fabbro, Jost were high on my list (refer to 2019 draft thread to see how high I was on Newhook and Sieder). I like Johnson too but....... I'm taking Lysell 10/10 over Johnson. Johnson is a project and a half the skill is there but the downside is too if he doesn't learn to play without the puck. Lysell is a driver and should be considered top 5 due to the constant pressure he puts on opposition and what he can do with or without the puck to create opportunities. Sure I'm basing my assessment of Lysell on opportunities over results but if he just keeps doing what he is doing with better team mates the results will come in spades. VS Johnson who I see reaping the rewards of playing on a team that can create space for him and cover his inadequacies. Lysell just generates so much more regardless of outcome. Edited May 22, 2021 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1. Power 2. Edvinsson 3. Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Trade pick 9+ beagle to buffalo for reinhart Sign nikita gusev Sign mattias janmark Sign tucker poolman Sign Jonathon Bernie (assuming hiltby is taken by seattle) Hoglander pettersson Reinhart Pearson Horvat Boeser Gusev Miller podkokzin Janmark Macewen motte Hughes Hamonic Rathbone schmidt Juolevi myers Poolman Demko Bernier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said: Trade pick 9+ beagle to buffalo for reinhart Sign nikita gusev Sign mattias janmark Sign tucker poolman Sign Jonathon Bernie (assuming hiltby is taken by seattle) Hoglander pettersson Reinhart Pearson Horvat Boeser Gusev Miller podkokzin Janmark Macewen motte Hughes Hamonic Rathbone schmidt Juolevi myers Poolman Demko Bernier Honestly that doesn't look like a competitive team to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, hammertime said: The way I see it Miller Pete Boeser Hog Bo Motte? Pearson Svech/McT Pod Gad Lind? Mac I feel like this forward group gives teams fits getting out of their own end. Lysell would also really fit the mold. Sustained smothering pressure is the key to this teams success. Svech or preferably Eklund if he's still there. I think both those guys add another layer of highly skilled 200ft game tomyhe lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, hammertime said: I'm targeting Lysell he's a rich man's Hoglander. Eklund is a rich man's hoglander, imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, stawns said: Eklund is a rich man's hoglander, imo I do have Eklund 1 notch above Lysell not for the same reasons though. What Eklund has done in the SHL this year is remarkable theres no substitute for results where Lysell I'm basing my assessment on potential. However I see Eklund as more of a finesse player compared to Lysell who clenches his butt cheeks and wills his way through determination. Both are good players and given the choice at this moment I probably take Elkund however I'm not sold one is better than the other they each have their merits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: 1. Power 2. Edvinsson 3. Hughes I've been seeing Beniers at #1 in some people's rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, stawns said: Eklund is a rich man's hoglander, imo Lysell is a rich man’s Hoglander but Eklund is a richer man’s Lysell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I feel this is how it will go at least for now barring any trades by any teams involved in the draft: 1. Power 2. Clarke 3. Edvinsson 4. Beniers 5. Hughes 6. Eklund 7. Johnson 8. Guenther 9. Lysell 10. Ceulemans This is just based off the rankings and information some of you folks have provided. Previous 3 drafts before last year, we've been alternating a forward and a defenseman with our top picks. I think if we win the lottery, we would continue with that trend and pick Power. He is a game changer and a must watch player. He would elevate our D to the next level especially if we move on from Edler. You can't go wrong here. I'm hoping for all the best in 2 weeks time in the draft lotto! GCG! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, DontMessMe said: I've been seeing Beniers at #1 in some people's rankings. No real consensus and he very well could be. I think the Dmen are more talked about and ranked higher on our boards because the lack there of in our prospect pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 These are the guys I have seen ranked 1st over all Powers Clarke Beniers Hughes In addition, I have seen these guys ranked 2nd over all Eklund Guenther Edvinsson All in the last 2 months Someone's wrong! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Johnson would be amazing if we can snag him. Explosive talent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/20/2021 at 6:38 AM, stawns said: Just from reading scouting reports, watching videos. I don't think he's going to be a defensive disaster or anything, but it's the weak part of his game, that's for sure. I just think that the team already has some issues on d there already and if they pick a damn, they need one who excels defensively. At #9, if no other dman falls, I'd rather go with Eklund if he's there or Svechkov is he isn't. I disagree with ya sorry. we would be lucky to add him. dont know enough about the Russian to compare tbh eklund looks great. I think he’s going to go high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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