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5 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Thing is, there is a lot of initial research on drugs and treatments that is done in university labs or is heavily subsidized.  The notion that only private enterprise is the only way innovation happens is a farce.  

 

Just a mention? And offering no opinion.

 

Private and public universities rely massively on both donations.

 

And collaboration. With govt., institutions like hospitals, other labs, companis. Universities often own and sell both research, patents. Just as often also have their research owned by those who commissioned it.   Circumstance is as wild as the deals that surround the industry. 

 

Simply because not all research was done by a pharmaceutical company means little. 

 

Which is why intellectual property in of its own is a specialized field of law.

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B.C. COVID-19 pandemic update:

 

As of Wednesday, Oct. 20, 2021, 89.3% (4,138,787) of eligible people 12 and older in B.C. have received their first dose of COVID-19 vaccine and 83.6% (3,876,579) received their second dose.

 

In addition, 89.7% (3,881,593) of all eligible adults in B.C. have received their first dose and 84.3% (3,646,128) received their second dose.

 

B.C. is reporting 696 new cases of COVID-19, including eight epi-linked cases, for a total of 199,534 cases in the province.

 

There are 4,888 active cases of COVID-19 in the province and 192,189 people who tested positive have recovered. Of the active cases, 370 individuals are in hospital and 139 are in intensive care. The remaining people are recovering at home in self-isolation.

 

Note: Intensive care numbers are a subset of the total in hospital. They are not in addition to the number of people in hospital.

 

The new/active cases include:

  • 252 new cases in Fraser Health
    • Total active cases: 1,929
  • 76 new cases in Vancouver Coastal Health
    • Total active cases: 724
  • 118 new cases in Interior Health
    • Total active cases: 795
  • 191 new cases in Northern Health
    • Total active cases: 864
  • 59 new cases in Island Health
    • Total active cases: 517
  • no new cases of a people who reside outside of Canada
    • Total active cases: 59

In the past 24 hours, six new deaths have been reported, for an overall total of 2,092.

 

The new deaths include:

  • Fraser Health: five
  • Vancouver Coastal Health: one

There has been one new health-care facility outbreak at Swedish Assisted Living Residence (Fraser Health), for a total of 24 active outbreaks, including:

long-term care:

  • Willingdon Care Centre, Westminster House, Magnolia Gardens, Manoah Manor, Cherington Place, West Shore Laylum, Queens Park Care Centre, Heritage Village (Fraser Health);
  • Amica Lions Gate (Vancouver Coastal Health);
  • Cottonwoods Care Centre, Overlander, Village by the Station, Haven Hill Retirement Centre (Interior Health); and
  • Wrinch Memorial Hospital (Northern Health).

acute care:

  • Mission Memorial Hospital (Fraser Health);
  • University Hospital of Northern BC, GR Baker Memorial Hospital (Northern Health); and
  • Tofino General Hospital (Island Health).

assisted or independent living:

  • Sunset Manor, Evergreen Manor, Menno Terrace West, The Emerald at Elim Village, Swedish Assisted Living Residence (Fraser Health); and
  • Cooper Place (Vancouver Coastal Health).

From Oct. 12-18, people not fully vaccinated accounted for 67.2% of cases and from Oct. 5-18, they accounted for 74.9% of hospitalizations.

 

Past week cases (Oct. 12-18) – Total 4,145

  • Not vaccinated: 2,488 (60.0%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 296 (7.2%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 1,361 (32.8%)

Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Oct. 5-18) – Total 458

  • Not vaccinated: 315 (68.8%)
  • Partially vaccinated: 28 (6.1%)
  • Fully vaccinated: 115 (25.1%)

Past week, cases per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 12-18)    

  • Not vaccinated: 294.3
  • Partially vaccinated: 86.9
  • Fully vaccinated: 32.1

Past two weeks, cases hospitalized per 100,000 population after adjusting for age (Oct. 5-18)

  • Not vaccinated: 54.1
  • Partially vaccinated: 11.9
  • Fully vaccinated: 2.6

Since December 2020, the Province has administered 8,088,314 doses of Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccines.

 

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0062-002006

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53 minutes ago, MikeBossy said:

Not very "Christian" of you I must say

What makes you think I am Christian? Because I am not.. 

 

I sincerely wish I was lol.. 

 

I just support all the major religions and god. Just not committed to any religion atm… maybe Islam in the future or

Christianity idk.
 

But one thing for sure is I am not a pinko commie who prefers to bow down to the the “leader” isn’t that how communism works? Xi, Kim, Stalin, Lenin etc.. 


 

 

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Russia orders a one-week lockdown with covid cases at record high

Vaccine hesitancy a big problem in Russia

Covid cases in Russia
 
There's a growing belief that we're in the final throws of the covid pandemic but that's not the case in Russia, where Putin today ordered everyone to stay home from work from Oct 30 to Nov 7.
 
The rising cases in the UK are another worry.
 
The hope is that low vaccinations rates make Russia an outlier. Only 31% of people there are fully vaccinated.
 
 
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These nutjobs again...

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Vancouver’s Corduroy Restaurant ordered to close for defying COVID-19 vaccine passport

Another British Columbia restaurant has been ordered to close for defying the province’s COVID-19 vaccine passport requirements.

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Vancouver Coastal Health issued Corduroy Restaurant in Vancouver’s Kitsilano neighbourhood a closure order on Wednesday for non-compliance with the BC Vaccine Card and an order requiring masks in indoor public places.

The City of Vancouver confirmed the restaurant’s business licence has also been suspended until Dec. 31.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8284853/corduroy-covid-ordered-closed/

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Once approved, it won't be simply drawing a smaller dose from the vials that adults use.  The reduced dosage also involved a change in the components.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pfizer-doses-children-5-11-approval-arrival-1.6219252

Canada to receive 2.9M Pfizer doses to begin vaccinating 5 to 11 year-olds once approved, Trudeau says

Pfizer has formally asked Health Canada for approval of their COVID-19 vaccine for children aged 5 to 11

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28 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Once approved, it won't be simply drawing a smaller dose from the vials that adults use.  The reduced dosage also involved a change in the components.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pfizer-doses-children-5-11-approval-arrival-1.6219252

Canada to receive 2.9M Pfizer doses to begin vaccinating 5 to 11 year-olds once approved, Trudeau says

Pfizer has formally asked Health Canada for approval of their COVID-19 vaccine for children aged 5 to 11

can't come soon enough.  The following is unconfirmed, as we don't get any imformation at the teacher level.

 

Yesterday we had a short staff meeting to inform us that one of our students stepdad had died that weekend of an "undisclosed medical illness" and that there were unsubstantiated covid rumours and they can't confirm one way or another.  On the school's PAC fb page, it was posted that it was covid, but was removed.  We still don't know one way or the other, but the student was in isolation to start the school year.  Of course, because they weren't reporting that in sept, we don't know, for sure

 

that's too close to home for me

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It's crazy talking to students at my school. The ones that don't want to get vaccinated think their online research is thorough and all think the vaccine is more dangerous than Covid.  That the vaccine doesn't work and that the government is using this as some sort of population cull because the world has too many people living on it .Needless to say, we've been discussing critical thinking skills and the importance of reputable sources.

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48 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

It's crazy talking to students at my school. The ones that don't want to get vaccinated think their online research is thorough and all think the vaccine is more dangerous than Covid.  That the vaccine doesn't work and that the government is using this as some sort of population cull because the world has too many people living on it .Needless to say, we've been discussing critical thinking skills and the importance of reputable sources.

Working the other day, I ran in to a guy on disability for actual head injuries.

 

He was telling me all about how he did his own research too and ran through the same, top talking points that we're all too familiar with. Adding the 'government wants to poison our children' one and then going off on a Trudeau didn't really win the election and tangent about Soros...

 

Him I feel a bit bad for. Guy is literally brain damaged. He gets my empathy (if also some mental face palming at the same time).

 

Healthy, educated people though... Wow :picard:

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1 hour ago, Wilbur said:

It's crazy talking to students at my school. The ones that don't want to get vaccinated think their online research is thorough and all think the vaccine is more dangerous than Covid.  That the vaccine doesn't work and that the government is using this as some sort of population cull because the world has too many people living on it .Needless to say, we've been discussing critical thinking skills and the importance of reputable sources.

We're thinking this parents death is going to straighten a few people out.  We are a community school with one bus, everyone else lives within walking distance........we all know each other well and this will shake a lot of people up 

 

I'm sick to my stomach for the girl, who is in grade 3, as her step dad was the only male figure in her life, outside of school.

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