DeNiro Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, c00kies said: Maybe, but at least you have a player you can turn around and sell again. Yeah, but you can get depth a helluva lot easier through free agency and trades. Star players are extremely difficult to get, and you should keep them at all costs or get another one in return. Stars also sell, which a market like Columbus needs to get fans. If Laine asks for a trade out of Columbus next what GM is gonna want to touch a player like that? I already think he’s a primadonna. Winning also sells tickets, and I personally don’t think Laine does much to elevate their team. He seems like a me first player that plays when he feels like it. The opposite type of player that Torts likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 will Gaudette + Virtanen + Podkolzin enough to compete with Laine + Roslovic? or do we have to add draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, c00kies said: Edit: the expansion draft also makes trading for depth less attractive. I don’t think Columbus has expansion draft worries. They’re actually pretty weak on forward especially if they lose Dubois, and outside of their top 3 D men they don’t have much. If any team needs to turn a star into depth it’s Columbus. Edited January 23, 2021 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: If Laine asks for a trade out of Columbus next what GM is gonna want to touch a player like that? I already think he’s a primadonna. Winning also sells tickets, and I personally don’t think Laine does much to elevate their team. He seems like a me first player that plays when he feels like it. The opposite type of player that Torts likes. Not only will he not get along with Torts, his numbers will likely take a nosedive on CBJ thanks to their depleted group of centers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Not only will he not get along with Torts, his numbers will likely take a nosedive on CBJ thanks to their depleted group of centers. Bingo. And how do you think he’s gonna react to that in a contract year when he’s looking to cash in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, DeNiro said: If Laine asks for a trade out of Columbus next what GM is gonna want to touch a player like that? I already think he’s a primadonna. Winning also sells tickets, and I personally don’t think Laine does much to elevate their team. He seems like a me first player that plays when he feels like it. The opposite type of player that Torts likes. I mean Kesler (who demanded a trade) got Bonino, Sbisa, and a first. I would take a Laine over that return if I'm trying to stay competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, c00kies said: I mean Kesler (who demanded a trade) got Bonino, Sbisa, and a first. I would take a Laine over that return if I'm trying to stay competitive. Of course. Different situation though since Kesler would only go to one team. Can’t compare the two. Edited January 23, 2021 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Of course. Different situation though since Kesler would on go to one team. Can’t compare the two. The similar part is where Columbus also wants immediate help at the same position (Bonino). Personally I'd try to do a 3 way deal sending him to Edmonton with RNH being included in the return. Edited January 23, 2021 by King Heffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yep I’m sure kekalainen didn’t leak that story, nope. GMs have their own network. Doubt they need media to get their info. Teams interested probably know who they are up against and the type of package that is being offered. Kekaleinen is surely trying to get them to bid against one another. This trade request was known for a while. Friedman was even surprised how long it took for them to get aware of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, mll said: GMs have their own network. Doubt they need media to get their info. Teams interested probably know who they are up against and the type of package that is being offered. Kekaleinen is surely trying to get them to bid against one another. This trade request was known for a while. Friedman was even surprised how long it took for them to get aware of it. Burke intentionally leaked trades to the media as per his book. It's not unusual. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Trebreh said: will Gaudette + Virtanen + Podkolzin enough to compete with Laine + Roslovic? or do we have to add draft picks. Would not trade Podz and Gaudette for both of those players cause a team has to have some depth and it would take a ton of cap space to keep both.. Edited January 23, 2021 by ShawnAntoski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Burke intentionally leaked trades to the media as per his book. It's not unusual. I know it happens. Still don’t think GMs need media to tell them that other teams have interest too. Fwiw Lamoriello has apparently pulled trades because of leaks. Murray in Anaheim also stopped discussions with Carolina after a leak. Edited January 23, 2021 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 montreal should trade Caufield, Kotkaniemi , first, second, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Of the teams rumoured to still be in it, you’d have to think Winnipeg is the best fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, Squamfan said: montreal should trade Caufield, Kotkaniemi , first, second, Doesn’t work with Montreal’s cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Trebreh said: will Gaudette + Virtanen + Podkolzin enough to compete with Laine + Roslovic? or do we have to add draft picks. Nope, any trade for Laine is going to require Boeser to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Squamfan said: montreal should trade Caufield, Kotkaniemi , first, second, Yeah, if they can get a draft pick, awesome, or even a 2nd, but Caufield and Kokaniemi should get it done. The Kings would be able to make that deal too, any 2 prospects other than Byfeld and a pick would get it done. The Kings have so much high end talent in their pipeline, its nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, stawns said: Would you trade Petey for Dubois straight up? Nope. We've seen Petey and Dubois in their best day, EP40 best on best is the better player by far, with almost a limitless upside. Dubois is a fantastic player, but Petey can do things Dubois cant do 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 hours ago, stawns said: Would you trade Petey for Dubois straight up? I roast Petey for being weak on his skates, but when he's on he's elite level. A few more years of physical maturity and he'll be a force, well more than he is now. His best has been a level ahead of Dubois' best. Buuuuuut, would be interesting to see Dubois in Greener's system, or really any offensively minded system, over Tort's more offensively limited one. But definitely not at the expense of Pettersson or even Horvat for that matter. A Dubois trade would be good for his career if he wants to stretch his scoring muscles more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Trebreh said: will Gaudette + Virtanen + Podkolzin enough to compete with Laine + Roslovic? or do we have to add draft picks. I was thinking similar but you’d have to add Eriksson for cap reasons. Eriksson is owed a lot less money than his cap hit so it could be doable. something like: Eriksson, Virtanen, podkolzin or Hoglander plus a first. Maybe a 2nd too Edited January 23, 2021 by brian42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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