[GDT/PGT] Vancouver Canucks @ Winnterpeg Jets | March 2, 2021 | 5 p.m. PT | SNP, TVAS

[Dazzle]

1 minute ago, DIBdaQUIB said:

Sounds like rolling the dice which shouldn't cost $4.5million. Holtby was trending down. Tonight wasn't really anomaly for him but the norm. He had a sun .9  save % coming into the game tonight.

Given how the defence plays every night, would you really be surprised? Grade A chances given up.

[CanadianRugby]

1 minute ago, timmylu1 said:

Blaming the refs for our loses is an embarrassment 

CDC.  Blaming refs and Toronto media for all of Canucks problems since the invention of the internet. 

[ShawnAntoski]

4 minutes ago, xereau said:

PLUG UP THE MIDDLE AND WAIT FOR THE OPPOSITION TO GIVE AWAY THE PUCK.

IF THEY DO, OFF THE GLASS AND OUT.

 

That's the problematic d-zone system boiled down.

Yeah our neutral zone pressure seems to be non existant....

[canuck2288]

5 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

With Ian Clarke's help and the bet that Holtby would bounce back, pretty damn high. It's not a bad signing. His bad game tonight wasn't good, sure, but all goalies have had bad games - including Markstrom.

He has been pretty unspectacular all season 

 

i like the guy but he has not stolen us any games and unfortunately in Green’s elite system the goalie is forced to win the game 

[bree2]

1 minute ago, timmylu1 said:

Blaming the refs for our loses is an embarrassment 

she never blamed the refs for the loss, and just you know the refs were atrocious and an embarrassment!

[Dazzle]

3 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Hasn't been really one for a few years now though.  Granted he was Vezina type candidate at his peak.

I dunno, these stats are pretty damn good though. Very consistent.

 

https://www.nhl.com/player/braden-holtby-8474651

Formatting is off.

 

WSH	54	54	34	16	0	4	1,648	153	2.99	1,495	.907	0	3,067:48
2018-2019	WSH	59	58	32	19	0	5	1,795	160	2.82	1,635	.911	3	3,406:34
2019-2020	WSH	48	47	25	14	0	6	1,385	142	3.11	1,243	.897	0	2,743:10

Edited March 3, 2021 by Dazzle

[DefCon1]

3 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

With Ian Clarke's help and the bet that Holtby would bounce back, pretty damn high. It's not a bad signing. His bad game tonight wasn't good, sure, but all goalies have had bad games - including Markstrom.

Holtby was not great in Washington based on stats in his recent years there. Benning just like to give big contracts to washed up vets...Ericksson, Beagle, Holtby, Myers. Cant even name a decent FA he signed over the summer that I would consider a major piece. Looking at the team, all of our key players are draft picks and some from trades.

[Cromeslab]

 

1 minute ago, canuck2288 said:

Green messed Demko up just like he messes everyone up 

 

the net needed to be Demko’s and he alternated right from the beginning of the season not allowing Demko to get any traction 

This game wasn’t on goaltending,get over it bro

[timmylu1]

Just now, bree2 said:

she never blamed the refs for the loss, and just you know the refs were atrocious and an embarrassment!

The refs were fine

[canuck2288]

This is Baumer’s d zone clearing system

 

.... only pass up or back along the boards

 

don’t try to move the puck or pass in the middle because the bad man may get the puck 

 

Meanwhile the bad man seals off the boards knowing its our system 

[Dazzle]

Just now, DefCon1 said:

Holtby was not great in Washington based on stats in his recent years there. Benning just like to give big contracts to washed up vets...Ericksson, Beagle, Holtby, Myers. Cant even name a decent FA he signed over the summer that I would consider a major piece. Looking at the team, all of our key players are draft picks and some from trades.

Eriksson was not washed up at the time of his signing. That's revisionist history.

 

Beagle was well respected in Washington - and a fan favourite, fresh off a cup win.

 

Myers was a well-sought after FA. Signed on the first day because he wanted to come home.

 

I get that you want to put some scapegoats in, but they have to make sense though.

[Dumb Nuck]

5 minutes ago, flat land fish said:

Tough to fault the coaches here,  Demko is playing better than Holtby.  One guy needs to take the ball and run with it and my bet is that is Demko.

Isn’t it the coach who decided not to play the guy that just got a shutout?

[bree2]

2 minutes ago, DefCon1 said:

Holtby was not great in Washington based on stats in his recent years there. Benning just like to give big contracts to washed up vets...Ericksson, Beagle, Holtby, Myers. Cant even name a decent FA he signed over the summer that I would consider a major piece. Looking at the team, all of our key players are draft picks and some from trades.

Beagle and Myers ? they have been good for the team, stats don't lie

[xereau]

1 minute ago, ShawnAntoski said:

Yeah our neutral zone pressure seems to be non existant....

Ya the only pressure in the system is in the O-zone.

 

Believe it or not, Green's N/O zone metrics last season were near the top of the league.

 

The entire team counter punches in the N/D zones, so that's why it seems there's no pressure, because there is none.

 

But when the team collapses to the hashmarks, and allows completely unfettered entry, and then crisp perimeter passing, something's rotten.

[DefCon1]

4 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

Given how the defence plays every night, would you really be surprised? Grade A chances given up.

True our D plays a pathetic system and gives up lots of chances. But Holtby needs to play better not just make the easy saves. Otherwise we should have signed a 1 million dollar backup since it would not make a lick of difference.

[canuck2288]

3 minutes ago, Cromeslab said:

 

This game wasn’t on goaltending,get over it bro

Did you not see the 4 goals allowed?

 

seriously? 
 

even Holtby said it was on him !!! 
 

That said Green is pathetic 

[bree2]

1 minute ago, Dumb Nuck said:

Isn’t it the coach who decided not to play the guy that just got a shutout?

Ian Clarke makes the call

[ShawnAntoski]

1 minute ago, xereau said:

Ya the only pressure in the system is in the O-zone.

 

Believe it or not, Green's N/O zone metrics last season were near the top of the league.

 

The entire team counter punches in the N/D zones, so that's why it seems there's no pressure, because there is none.

 

But when the team collapses to the hashmarks, and allows completely unfettered entry, and then crisp perimeter passing, something's rotten.

Good point and don't forgot our exit zone strategy called the heart attack...

[ShawnAntoski]

1 minute ago, canuck2288 said:

Did you not see the 4 goals allowed?

 

seriously? 
 

even Holtby said it was on him !!! 
 

That said Green is pathetic 

He is a Jets fan

[Cromeslab]

1 minute ago, canuck2288 said:

Did you not see the 4 goals allowed?

 

seriously? 
 

even Holtby said it was on him !!! 
 

That said Green is pathetic 

Other than green is pathetic,I disagree