DefCon1 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 9/28/2021 at 7:04 PM, cripplereh said: our D group without QH will be good, with him we will be great we have made our team better but hold outs will hurt us, but not as much as people think Our D is still the big weakness of this team. Especially if Hamonic doesnt comeback soon. We need a pure shut down D that can actually shut down top lines. Hughes still needs a stable partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Way to early to make an assessment after a few preseason games. Real test will be when we play a Cup contending team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 4:16 PM, Putgolzin said: Agreed - it’s a work in progress like our forwards have been for years. Like when we had a couple/few good top line forwards and seventeen third liners and another twelve fourth liners. Seems like our forwards are finally sorted, but it’s gonna be a bit still to get our D in championship form. Can the D issue be solved by trade deadline? Am looking at Seattle trading Giordano if they are out before deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Way to early to make an assessment after a few preseason games. Real test will be when we play a Cup contending team. we are lacking in D, I know poolman and OEL have played great but our other D men dont look that good. Myers is still Myers. Rathbone is good offesively but still makes defensive mistake. Hopefully Juolevi can take a huge step this year. Schenn and Hunt are not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, DefCon1 said: we are lacking in D, I know poolman and OEL have played great but our other D men dont look that good. Myers is still Myers. Rathbone is good offesively but still makes defensive mistake. Hopefully Juolevi can take a huge step this year. Schenn and Hunt are not good. Sometimes the whole is better than the sum of the parts. Yeah, old cliche' but I think it's relevant here. You even can get the opposite effect when two otherwise LEGIT top 4 D have absolutely zero chemistry (eg., Edler & Bieksa). Those two were worse than anybody we'll have in our top 4 this season (even if there are no changes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Sometimes the whole is better than the sum of the parts. Yeah, old cliche' but I think it's relevant here. You even can get the opposite effect when two otherwise LEGIT top 4 D have absolutely zero chemistry (eg., Edler & Bieksa). Those two were worse than anybody we'll have in our top 4 this season (even if there are no changes). Edler was good defensively early in his career, but became worst defensively and I will say both were not the typical stay at home dmen. Right now we dont have a legit defensive D man like a Tanev or Larsson in our D group. We need one for Hughes and Hamonic is the closest thing to that and ge is still out. Just hoping Hamonic plays soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 On 9/9/2021 at 10:19 PM, guntrix said: Hard to say whether OEL is better than Edler until we see which OEL we’re getting. Looks like the one who wears number 23 better. At least for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU SERIOUS Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Our D just got a whole lot better with the TERMINATION OF YO-LEVI ! That guy was one of the worst 1st round picks since Lazy Jake "The Ripper". Uncle Jim just doesn't know what to do with 1st round picks, either gives them away or makes terrible decisions half the time and some think he's a genious? OMG - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 OEL Myers Hughes Poolman Beyond that, the team doesn't have much in the way of NHL dmen. If Rathbone is going to be rushed into the NHL, he will need a very good NHL shut down dman to support him. Preseason Schenn is not the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindiculous Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 3 hours ago, higgyfan said: OEL Myers Hughes Poolman Beyond that, the team doesn't have much in the way of NHL dmen. If Rathbone is going to be rushed into the NHL, he will need a very good NHL shut down dman to support him. Preseason Schenn is not the guy. As most people say if you have two pairings you trust, you can cover up the third pairing. But even then Rathbone could be really good and we have some serviceable replacement level guys on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_of_94 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 I know as a Dman myself it takes time to get used to new D partners, I’m pretty optimistic about this group. I think we’ll be much better than last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 A dman like Cernak from Tampa would have been soo good for this team. Yes they don’t come around often and you have to develop them. We really don’t have any of those type of dman in our system. I don’t know how they will fix this issue. They may have to wait for a team to start out poorly and try to pounce on them in a trade. It really is something that looks rather bleak to fix at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Canuckfanforlife82 said: A dman like Cernak from Tampa would have been soo good for this team. Yes they don’t come around often and you have to develop them. We really don’t have any of those type of dman in our system. I don’t know how they will fix this issue. They may have to wait for a team to start out poorly and try to pounce on them in a trade. It really is something that looks rather bleak to fix at this point. Did Tampa develop Cernak? I thought they traded for (or signed as UFA) all their Cup team D except for Hedman? Edited October 11, 2021 by Alflives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckfanforlife82 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 He was acquired in 2017 in a trade from LA but you either develop them or trade for them. It would have to be good price going back to make a trade like that which I don’t think we have the assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 9:26 AM, DefCon1 said: we are lacking in D, I know poolman and OEL have played great but our other D men dont look that good. Myers is still Myers. Rathbone is good offesively but still makes defensive mistake. Hopefully Juolevi can take a huge step this year. Schenn and Hunt are not good. Poolmans played great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieVedder Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 9:21 PM, Rindiculous said: As most people say if you have two pairings you trust, you can cover up the third pairing. But even then Rathbone could be really good and we have some serviceable replacement level guys on the right side. Rathbone cant defend, so im not sure how you expect him to be good. Cup contending teams dont have one dimensional D's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 9:20 AM, DefCon1 said: Our D is still the big weakness of this team. Especially if Hamonic doesnt comeback soon. We need a pure shut down D that can actually shut down top lines. Hughes still needs a stable partner. With Hamonic out, have to think the next defensive defenseman is Poolman, if not Schenn. Who else would work with Hughes? I can't see Myers being partnered with Hughes, hasn't seemed to work in the past, not sure if it's going to work now. OEL doesn't strike me as a defensive defenseman either. Neither Poolman or Schenn screams top line defenseman, so that worries me as well. Might be playing too far up the lineup for those two guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, EddieVedder said: Rathbone cant defend, so im not sure how you expect him to be good. Cup contending teams dont have one dimensional D's. I'm curious about the defensive pairings. Anyone know who's been practicing with who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 5:16 PM, RU SERIOUS said: Our D just got a whole lot better with the TERMINATION OF YO-LEVI ! That guy was one of the worst 1st round picks since Lazy Jake "The Ripper". Uncle Jim just doesn't know what to do with 1st round picks, either gives them away or makes terrible decisions half the time and some think he's a genious? OMG - I'm not sure how losing depth is a good thing at the backend, considering this team isn't very good with its current corps of defenseman. I love what the team has done with its forwards, but if you can't defend, you can't win. That old adage is true, defense wins championships, and right now, we're not very good at the backend, at least on paper, who knows how it'll translate onto the ice. I'll be watching closely tomorrow night for the opener. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Does anyone know if Juulsen is going to be with the main team or is he going to start the year with Abby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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