[Report] Flyers claim Zack MacEwen off waivers

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[BureBurrito]

In Benning co fashion, another find for another team to utilize. Mac was useful, had a poor camp, but was depth and size the team lacks. You don't think players won't run Hughes or Petey?

 

With Juolevi, Gadj, MacEwen....what do all these prospects leaving say about player development? Is the system broken somehow? Are prospects that Benning signs not really that good as we think? Does the team have a problem turning somewhat value players into zero value players (which in turn other teams pick off for free when available)? 

 

Can't a guy like a Gadjovich or MacEwen get even a 7th round pick, an AHL prospect or futures in return? Going into year 8, I'm running out of what to say with this regime and overall asset management anymore.

 

 

Edited October 13, 2021 by BureBurrito

[rekker]

16 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

Fighting has a place, albeit a much smaller place than it used to, but if you're going to be more than a fringe bottom six guy you're going to need to either be part of special teams or produce complimentary offense. Zack did neither of those things last season. If we want players who can come up to forecheck and hit we've got players who can do that. 

I agree with that. You need to be able to at least PK. So find one FFS. Is it that tough to find a guy like that? I get the elite, skating, tough guys are tough to get. Can JB not find Tom Wilson light? The game plan against the Canucks was always to play them tough. Oh boy, look out, this team is in trouble and I fear for our lighter players. Open season.

[Toyotasfan]

I am shocked for the lack of love here , in my mind his training camp reflects the caliber of line mates he was given, a bunch of AHL tryouts. But no mistake , he can play in the NHL and will be a top enforcer in the league. I am truly sad as will many fans be when Calgary goons it up on the Canucks. 

[rekker]

9 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Philly got a kid who gets his role. Stupid move by the Canucks. Stupid. 

[mll]

 

[Coconuts]

8 minutes ago, BureBurrito said:

In Benning co fashion, another player exits (and in this player, could have been useful in the bottom 6). Like what do all these prospects leaving say about player development? Is the system poor? Are Benning prospects he signs not really that good? Does the team have a problem turning somewhat value players into zero value players (which in turn other teams pick off for free when available)? 

 

Can't a guy like a Gadjovich or MacEwen get even a 7th round pick, an AHL prospect or futures in return? Going into year 8, I'm running out of what to say with this regime and overall asset management anymore.

 

 

Teams lose players to waivers every year around this time, we aren't the only organization that has to shuffle their borderline guys who aren't on ELC's down. And because of that, teams aren't going to throw picks to other teams for players who'll probably just hit waivers. Why would an organization give up picks for tweeners they'd have to keep on their own roster when they've got tweeners of their own? 

[Quantum]

I will not be surprised if the Flyers re-waive MacEwen sometime later this season and the Canucks re-acquire him and have him go to Abby. That scenario seems likely to me.

[rekker]

Just now, Quantum said:

I will not be surprised if the Flyers re-waive MacEwen sometime later this season and the Canucks re-acquire him and have him go to Abby. That scenario seems likely to me.

This is what I'm hoping is the bigger plan. Same with Gadjovich. We've lost what little toughness this team had. 

[JM_]

49 minutes ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said:

Should have waived him sooner and kept Gadjovich 

this is the correct answer.

[D-Money]

Flyers have a bunch of depth guys on I/R. They’re just plugging holes right now. I fully expect Mac to be back on waivers at some point (after which, if we are the only team that claims him, we can send him straight to Abby).

[Coconuts]

5 minutes ago, rekker said:

I agree with that. You need to be able to at least PK. So find one FFS. Is it that tough to find a guy like that? I get the elite, skating, tough guys are tough to get. Can JB not find Tom Wilson light? The game plan against the Canucks was always to play them tough. Oh boy, look out, this team is in trouble and I fear for our lighter players. Open season.

Go poke through the ufa pool on capfriendly and tell me which bottom six pk specialist you'd like. At first I thought, maybe Jankowski, but upon further review there are reasons nobody's signed him. https://www.pensburgh.com/2021/6/10/22524920/2020-21-season-in-review-mark-jankowski-penguins-flames-nhl-advanced-stats-free-agency-draft

 

Teams tend to hang on to their effective penalty killers, and those who move on usually get signed within the first month of ufa. It's why we held on to Sutter, although his long Covid symptoms have kind of put a damper on that. So yes, finding players who are tough, who PK, and who play a rough game are tough to acquire because teams value them in their bottom six. 

 

I don't really subscribe to the policeman role in the modern NHL tbh, if a team wants to be tough it needs to be by committee. Can we do that? Well, that remains to be seen. Most teams nowadays don't have a Reaves or a Lucic. 

[rekker]

6 minutes ago, Coconuts said:

Go poke through the ufa pool on capfriendly and tell me which bottom six pk specialist you'd like. At first I thought, maybe Jankowski, but upon further review there are reasons nobody's signed him. https://www.pensburgh.com/2021/6/10/22524920/2020-21-season-in-review-mark-jankowski-penguins-flames-nhl-advanced-stats-free-agency-draft

 

Teams tend to hang on to their effective penalty killers, and those who move on usually get signed within the first month of ufa. It's why we held on to Sutter, although his long Covid symptoms have kind of put a damper on that. So yes, finding players who are tough, who PK, and who play a rough game are tough to acquire because teams value them in their bottom six. 

 

I don't really subscribe to the policeman role in the modern NHL tbh, if a team wants to be tough it needs to be by committee. Can we do that? Well, that remains to be seen. Most teams nowadays don't have a Reaves or a Lucic. 

I don't have the answers, that's for sure. But its also not my job. A Mac or Gads should at least of been kept as place holders. FFNN soft this team is. I don't want Bo or JT fighting. I also don't like the lame shoving matches after a player has been run. You need a player that drops the mitts and throws trpigha guy that is running around. Pathetic. I'm pissed. 

[GB5]

Year after year the Canucks struggle with depth down the stretch when injuries hit and need to insert a bunch f generic no name skaters to fill the holes.

Losing assets off waivers will not help at all with this and this will be the softest Canuck team ever.

[flickyoursedin]

Our bottom 6 got a lot smaller. Can’t believe we waived and lost Jonah and Mac lol.

[DeNiro]

4 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said:

Our bottom 6 got a lot smaller. Can’t believe we waived and lost Jonah and Mac lol.

MacEwan should have always been on waivers.

 

Gadjovich shouldn’t have. He at least brought something to go along with his toughness.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Don’t worry guys, Benning will just trade a pick midseason, if we need to add some toughness to the lineup. 

 

(Joking/not joking) 

 

Best of luck to Big Mac. Seems like a great guy and I really wish him well. 
 

But hopefully he and/or Gads find their way back to us on waivers later this season. Would love to claim them back.

 

If they do manage to stay up and play their whole seasons in NHL lineups with the Flyers and Sharks, I wish them both success. They obviously weren’t (for right or wrong) going to get that chance here this season.

[Coconuts]

13 minutes ago, rekker said:

I don't have the answers, that's for sure. But its also not my job. A Mac or Gads should at least of been kept as place holders. FFNN soft this team is. I don't want Bo or JT fighting. I also don't like the lame shoving matches after a player has been run. You need a player that drops the mitts and throws trpigha guy that is running around. Pathetic. I'm pissed. 

According to hockeyfights Bo's fought four times during his career as a Canuck, JT's fought six times but only two of those fights have come as a Canuck. If you're worried about them fighting, don't, because it's very unlikely to be them. 

 

Luke Schenn on the other hand has fought 51 times, which was likely part of why he was brought in. Myers has fought a little, with 6 fights, but other than that most of our guys simply haven't fought much. But you know, if you go through the roster of other teams and plunk their names into hockey fights I imagine you'd fine more of the same. Most teams don't have multiple guys who fight regularly anymore, and the idea that that should be, or is, a common thing belong to maybe the early 2010's at the latest. 

Edited October 13, 2021 by Coconuts

[rekker]

1 minute ago, Coconuts said:

According to hockeyfights Bo's fought four times during his career as a Canuck, JT's fought six times but only two of those fights have come as a Canuck. If you're worried about them fighting, don't, because it's very unlikely to be them. 

 

Luke Schenn on the other hand has fought 51 times, which was likely part of why he was brought in. Myers has fought a little, with 6 fights, but other than that most of our guys simply haven't fought much. But you know, if you go through the roster of other teams and plunk their names into hockey fights I imagine you'd fine more of the same. Most teams don't have multiple guys who fight regularly anymore, and the idea that that should or is a common thing belong to maybe the early 2010's at the latest. 

But this team isn't even equipped to be tough by committee. It's sooo soft. 

[Coconuts]

5 minutes ago, rekker said:

But this team isn't even equipped to be tough by committee. It's sooo soft. 

I suppose that depends on how you define toughness. Is it being hard on the forecheck? Because we can do that when healthy. Is it getting into scrums and doing the hugging/pushing thing after a whistle? Because most teams engage in that. Is it hitting? Because we did that last season. 

 

Could we have a "rougher" collection of players? Yeah, we could, but management has clearly taken this team in more of a skill direction. Most teams aren't built like Tampa was last season, and Philly's always had a thing for fighters. I don't have answers for you, and we won't know what we have on the ice til the team starts playing games. 

Edited October 13, 2021 by Coconuts