[PGT] New York Rangers at Vancouver Canucks | Nov. 02, 2021

[RakuRaku]

24 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Yes, and put DiGuseppe on the 4th line Chiasson in the press box. More grit. 

Goal scoring upside way bigger with Podz. Podz audition is over. 

I've always liked Di Giuseppe's game but Green likes Dowling more 'cause of versatility... Di Giuseppe was good enough as an extra forward Rangers/Preds/Canes!! Kinda sad for an NHLer to be stuck down there waiting for his chance again! 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[Elias Pettersson]

 

[DS4quality]

I was very very upset with the officiating this game 

Far to many powerplays for my liking!

[Elias Pettersson]

Not bad for 7 minutes...

 

 

[Viper007]

3 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said:

Shouldn’t he have put Garland up with the more talented players sooner? 
 

Should he have benched Podz in favour of plugs?

 

Should he have had Chaisson over Boeser on the PP? 
 

Who puts which players on the ice at any given time? 
 

You don’t want to credit Green for the win but acknowledge Green in the win? 
 

Stupidity indeed. 

I'm going by your statement regarding Green.  You didn't give him any credit, yet he's doing all these things, and they win.  

 

Should he put Garland up earlier?  No, you need to see how the lotto line is going first before changing things up.

Should he have benched Podz in favour of plugs?  He didn't bench Podz.  He scored the tieing goal in the third period.  If he was benched he wouldn't have played in the third.

Should he have Chaisson over Boeser on the PP?  Yes in that spot.  I believe he should have Boeser on the left boards for another threat of a one-timer in that spot instead of JT.  But isn't it King that runs the PP?

Who puts which players on the ice, it's Green for the forwards.  And I believe it's Baumer for the D.  So you won't give credit to green for having those players out on the ice for the win?  But only when they lose it's all his fault.

I don't credit Green in the wins/losses like you do.  How you believe that Green is the reason for all the losses and none of the reasons why the team wins is the thing that is stupid.

 

 

[-Vintage Canuck-]

 

[DeNiro]

5 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

And Bettman rewards us by rescinding the Luongo penalty?

[Rabbit]

Great comeback! 1st home win!

The whole team woke up in the 3rd period.

Fans created great atmosphere, keep it up.

 

Demko is the hero, especially in the 3rd period.

JT, Garland and Podz saved Green's job.

It looks Hamonic and Shenn was quite solid.

 

To start a winning streak, 

PP was not acceptable and

PK need to be improved.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

11 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

You should have heard the throng of boo's when we had a 2 man adv called against us. It was loud an it was long. 

Best boo's I've ever had. 

 

Yeah the crowd at the end there was the best I have ever heard in a long time. It's hard to hear them on the broadcast and they didn't make it hard.

 

Hopefully the players can build off that.

[48MPHSlapShot]

If the team can't rally around what Demko did in that sequence in the 3rd when he lost his blocker then his team doesn't have a heart.

[Hairy Kneel]

6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Not bad for 7 minutes...

 

 

Podz was amazing. I kept pointing him out to my daughter. I think I have a new jersey to get. 

[DeNiro]

That Myers failed clear that lead to the Demko flurry of saves are plays that are killing us. Lucky that one didn’t cost us the game but very well could have.

 

Gotta make the simple plays simple again. Do that and then we can focus on the more complex stuff.

[Alienhuggyflow]

1 hour ago, CanucksJay said:

Green should really be gone though. 

To continually send out PP1 when they haven't shown an ounce of competence was idiotic. Meanwhile PP2 led by Garland who is having an amazing game gets shortchanged and produced the better chances with 30 seconds of power play time every powerplay yet he keeps going back to PP1.  

The first few times. I was like ok, Green will figure it out. By the 5th, I was wondering if he is actually stupid. 

 

I said in the GDT that Garland, Podz, Hogz are going and low and behold, they come up huge. I'm a couch potatoe and even I can see they were going.  

 

Also both times we scored a goal, our guys were pumped, building was rocking and then he followed it up with 4th line and we got completely hemmed in our zone and zapped the momentum. 

 

I really want to punch him in the face lol. He is utterly clueless. 

Canucks turned it on for 10 minutes and completely outclassed the rags. 

This shows how much of a superior team we are and how much better we are than what we have shown. 

 

Green needs to go

 

Not making excuses for TG but don't the pp coach and pk coach deserve blame?

Vancouver has been the better team 5on5 most nights and the team is top 10 in GA while having the 29th ranked pk. They are top 3 in 5on5 GA  while being 31st last season in GA and 5on5 GA.

All top 4 D are plus players with Quinn being plus 5 compared to minus 14 at this point last season.

100% the pp needs to be better but it's not like they haven't tried a bunch of different combos but the reality is the guys who should be producing aren't. 

The pk has sucked and is what has cost us games but we are literally missing our 3 best guys, 4 before Hamonic returned.

 

Personally I would be more worried if we were sh*t 5on5 and our top 4 was a train wreck like the last couple of years.

All the TG haters who comes in that will suddenly make the team better on special teams? 

My biggest gripe is that TG hasn't tried Podz on special teams yet but keeps Chiasson on the top unit.

I'm really curious if the negative people here watch a lot of other teams play, there are a lot of teams that are picked to be better then us that are not only struggling but are playing far worse. Even some of the teams that are winning are playing really unsustainable hockey and are being carried by their special teams and everyone knows how that plays out in the long run.

 

[wallstreetamigo]

34 minutes ago, Viper007 said:

System looked fine to me.  They were outplaying the rangers for the majority of the game.  

Dump and change offensive hockey is not a good system in minor hockey let alone the nhl.

 

They had 12 min of PP time. It stands to reason they should generate some shots.

 

Outplaying them? In what way? They were still giving up pucks by dumping and not chasing, losing races and puck battles all game long, and were passive and scramble defensively.

 

Sure sounds like a fantastic system.

[Hairy Kneel]

8 hours ago, RakuRaku said:

I've always liked Di Giuseppe's game but Green likes Dowling more 'cause of versatility... Di Giuseppe was good enough as an extra forward Rangers/Preds/Canes!! Kinda sad for an NHLer to be stuck down there waiting for his chance again! 

What I think Green misses, is the right chemistry to win. With top  skilled smaller forwards, he thinks we should add more small skilled forwards. When what we need is bigger stronger forwards (and defensemen). The right mix takes checking and board battles for those that are good at it. The league has so many big skilled forwards now that are difficult to match up against, we some size for defensive reasons. 

 

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Hairy Kneel

[fanfor42]

4 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Podz was amazing. I kept pointing him out to my daughter. I think I have a new jersey to get. 

Green played him 7 minutes 4 seconds.  He got 6 hits and the game tying goal.

 

Good coaching.

 

 

[ShawnAntoski]

43 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Yes, and put DiGuseppe on the 4th line Chiasson in the press box. More grit. 

Goal scoring upside way bigger with Podz. Podz audition is over. 

Just wondering how was the atmosphere in the stadium for the whole game and was a packed house ?

[IceHockeyPlayer]

This win still hides the fact that the Canucks are disorganized, can’t enter the zone cleanly, and have ineffective and very predictable powerplay. Still not giving pass on the coaching staff. However, I appreciate that the effort level is much higher tonight. They need to get pucks on net more and quicker on the powerplay. Something that Petey used to do but other teams are adjusting to him. If Miller takes more shots on left side maybe it can give Petey more time on right, stretching out the D a bit more. Too much peripheral passing in my opinion.

[Sharpshooter]

1 minute ago, Viper007 said:

I'm going by your statement regarding Green.  You didn't give him any credit, yet he's doing all these things, and they win.  

 

Should he put Garland up earlier?  No, you need to see how the lotto line is going first before changing things up.

Should he have benched Podz in favour of plugs?  He didn't bench Podz.  He scored the tieing goal in the third period.  If he was benched he wouldn't have played in the third.

Should he have Chaisson over Boeser on the PP?  Yes in that spot.  I believe he should have Boeser on the left boards for another threat of a one-timer in that spot instead of JT.  But isn't it King that runs the PP?

Who puts which players on the ice, it's Green for the forwards.  And I believe it's Baumer for the D.  So you won't give credit to green for having those players out on the ice for the win?  But only when they lose it's all his fault.

I don't credit Green in the wins/losses like you do.  How you believe that Green is the reason for all the losses and none of the reasons why the team wins is the thing that is stupid.

 

 

Doing what things? 
 

Garland should have been on the top line before tonight. Garland is literally the catalyst for tonight’s offence. A head coach ought to have recognized him for being the energy the top 6 needed games ago. 
 

Podz has been benched plenty this season thus far over less talented plugs. Don’t be obtuse. Your myopia in defending Green but not defending Green isn’t fooling anyone. 
 

King/Baumer aren’t the head coaches. Green is. If he’s too stupid to override his assistants then he’s the $&!# leader that many believe him to be…except you seemingly. 
 

Green’s body of mismanagement speaks for itself thus far this season. The team eeked out a win. Good for them. If Green is only capable of coaching wins that are eeked out based on luck and fortuitous bounces and a goaltender who has to make miraculous saves, then this team is done for.  
 

Using the assistant coaches as a means of excusing the head coach lack of a clear plan is laughable.  
 

Again, stupidity indeed