stawns Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Slegr said: The more I see what the Flames are doing, the more I’d love to see the Canucks keep Miller. He’s got that Kesler-esque mojo and is all about winning at all costs. It rubs off on the team. And sure, he gets whiney when things don’t go his way, and at times defensively suspect, but he’s a man’s man, wears his heart on his sleeve, and those are elements that are often seriously lacking on this team. And how much have they won with Miller, exactly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertaNuck Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 We are not getting past Edmonton Calgary in the standings, the rest is pretty even and will be a dart toss management can’t be ok with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, AlphaNuck said: We are not getting past Edmonton Calgary in the standings, the rest is pretty even and will be a dart toss management can’t be ok with that Edmonton and Calgary are smack dab in the middle of their window and they have to make hay before it closes. You can't compare apples to oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makaramel MacKhiato Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I have wasted 15% of my summer checking into this forum once an hour to see if Miller has been traded. I need Alvin and JR fired for giving a false sense of hope, and I need compensation for my wasted time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) There are 2 things I’d like to see before giving Miller a long term deal over $8M: 1) Last year under Boudreau was not a mirage, and this team is ready to take the next step and possibly contend in the next few years. 2) Last year for Miller was not just a career year by a long shot, followed by a noticeable decline. I’d like to ensure that he can keep up that pace for at least the immediate future. (There’s a possibility he may even start regressing this year.) Neither of those can be answered before the season starts. So yeah, unless you get the type of trade offer that makes it hard to say no, it makes all kind of sense to start the season with him and see what we really have here. Edited August 19, 2022 by D-Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, stawns said: And how much have they won with Miller, exactly? He’s generally a plus player… unlike Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Slegr said: He’s generally a plus player… unlike Horvat. my point is this Miller myth that he "wins at all costs" has born no fruit.........they haven't won anything since he's been on the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Top Sven Baercheese said: I have wasted 15% of my summer checking into this forum once an hour to see if Miller has been traded. I need Alvin and JR fired for giving a false sense of hope, and I need compensation for my wasted time. Where did either one of them say they were going to trade Miller prior to training camp? To Quote from The Untouchables: Don't wait for it to happen. Don't want it to happen. Just watch was does happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, stawns said: my point is this Miller myth that he "wins at all costs" has born no fruit.........they haven't won anything since he's been on the team. Where has the team got with EP40? Where has the team got with Hughes? One player is not the whole team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'll post how I like, thanks. Feel free not to read it or comment Cannot you make your points without belittling others? And, just because you think and say something, does not make it The Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, spook007 said: I think Aquilini wanted play offs hockey...now... I have thought the same ever since Lynden left the organization - Lynden wanted a patient and methodical rebuild in order to construct a perennial contender, while Aquaman just wanted a sliver of hope at a playoff round regardless if it was a one-and-done scenario. But I digress. Any moves JB either did or didn't make during his tenure need to be put into context with Aquaman's directive - if in fact one believes there was a directive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Where has the team got with EP40? Where has the team got with Hughes? One player is not the whole team. exactly right..............and theres not some weird myth built up around EP or QH that they are some kind of super leaders who can will their team to win at all costs. And the truth is, the one playoff experience they had with MIller, it was Bo who carried the team on his shoulders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Miller and Hogs for Barzal, who says no, Van or Isles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, stawns said: my point is this Miller myth that he "wins at all costs" has born no fruit.........they haven't won anything since he's been on the team. they've won a hell of a lot more games with him than they would have without. and it's not just a straight production argument, either. you could replace his production with equivalent from other player(s) but you wouldn't end up with the same wins. teams need personality and emotion and leadership and heart and this team has none without miller. Edited August 19, 2022 by tas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Jester13 said: Miller and Hogs for Barzal, who says no, Van or Isles? me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Miller and Hogs for Barzal, who says no, Van or Isles? If it could be done the answer is YES!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jester13 said: Miller and Hogs for Barzal, who says no, Van or Isles? Isles. They'd want Pettersson coming back if they're moving Barzal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Fanuck said: I have thought the same ever since Lynden left the organization - Lynden wanted a patient and methodical rebuild in order to construct a perennial contender, while Aquaman just wanted a sliver of hope at a playoff round regardless if it was a one-and-done scenario. But I digress. Any moves JB either did or didn't make during his tenure need to be put into context with Aquaman's directive - if in fact one believes there was a directive. At least attempt to look up the spelling of one of the most revered Canuck ever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, johngould21 said: At least attempt to look up the spelling of one of the most revered Canuck ever. Easy man, autocorrect because my good buddy's name who I txt regularly is spelled that way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Mikheyev Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, mll said: He said it a few times already and again yesterday when commenting on the Kadri signing. The clip is on page 16 of the Kadri thread - it's less than 1 minute into the clip. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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