jyu Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, BabychStache said: With the strong play of Beniers, Seattle CAN move Wright. Its a but unnerving for them to move on from a highly touted guy that dropped in the draft, then trade him so soon. He's gotta have some saltiness in his personality or something. I'm ok with that, I'd say Petey has a bit of that himself. As do a lot of highly competitive players. Getting Wright for Bo i'd do 1 for 1. It gives the Canucks some cap flexibility. Likely improves the lottery odds, and gives the Canucks fans a clear signal that they are going to rebuild. Landing Wright and if the Hockey Gods take pity on the downtrodden, getting Bedard is a very clear path to building something fantastic. Getting a mid level 1st and some 2nds this draft is imperative to hopefully get a shot at a D man like Strbak. I wouldn't do that 1-for-1, even if it's Wright. Wright could bust, he wouldn't be the first top 5 pick to bust in the NHL. And 2023 draft happens to be full of centers. We could get a center at Wright's caliber in 2023 draft, whose timeline to make the NHL may be more or less similar as Wright's timeline to make the NHL. I think whenever you trade an established veteran, you need to get quantity as well as quality back so as to increase the probability of the trade paying off. If you go 1-for-1, the risk is a bit too high that it fails and you get nothing out from the trade. I'd ask for at least a 1st round pick, a defenceman, and a forward/prospect from Bo trade. If Seattle is willing to give us Wright, then the price could be lowered a bit to include a D man or a 1st rather than both pieces since Wright is a high end prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabychStache Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, jyu said: I wouldn't do that 1-for-1, even if it's Wright. Wright could bust, he wouldn't be the first top 5 pick to bust in the NHL. And 2023 draft happens to be full of centers. We could get a center at Wright's caliber in 2023 draft, whose timeline to make the NHL may be more or less similar as Wright's timeline to make the NHL. I think whenever you trade an established veteran, you need to get quantity as well as quality back so as to increase the probability of the trade paying off. If you go 1-for-1, the risk is a bit too high that it fails and you get nothing out from the trade. I'd ask for at least a 1st round pick, a defenceman, and a forward/prospect from Bo trade. If Seattle is willing to give us Wright, then the price could be lowered a bit to include a D man or a 1st rather than both pieces since Wright is a high end prospect. There is risk in every deal. Schneider for Horvat for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Boston fans saying they'd do Lysell + 1st + Mike Reilly for Bo. Yikes. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, BabychStache said: With the strong play of Beniers, Seattle CAN move Wright. Its a but unnerving for them to move on from a highly touted guy that dropped in the draft, then trade him so soon. He's gotta have some saltiness in his personality or something. I'm ok with that, I'd say Petey has a bit of that himself. As do a lot of highly competitive players. Getting Wright for Bo i'd do 1 for 1. It gives the Canucks some cap flexibility. Likely improves the lottery odds, and gives the Canucks fans a clear signal that they are going to rebuild. Landing Wright and if the Hockey Gods take pity on the downtrodden, getting Bedard is a very clear path to building something fantastic. Getting a mid level 1st and some 2nds this draft is imperative to hopefully get a shot at a D man like Strbak. There's no way Seattle does that trade. We'd have to add Lekerimaki and maybe a 2nd+ They struck gold by getting Wright at #4. They aren't gonna give him up lightly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Boston fans saying they'd do Lysell + 1st + Mike Reilly for Bo. Yikes. Boston fans think it’s alright to marry your cousin so… 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyu Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, BabychStache said: There is risk in every deal. Schneider for Horvat for instance. Yes. The point I'm trying to make is to lower the risk as much as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Bo is approaching 30 and is going to get a max contract. This devalues him a fair bit. We would need to add to get Wright & maybe Laffrenier. Imagine we had these guys. And what we'd want for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, HKSR said: He's as much an insider as Khaby Lame. Right on, good talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, steviewonder20 said: You’re correct, he overpaid aging players instead. That is true, but we wouldn't have been wondering, if Bo was going to stay or not. Is 7x8 for Miller any better? or Nearly 7 for 3 years for Brock much better... hmm at least its only 3 years for Brock before he can leave on a free... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Bo is approaching 30 and is going to get a max contract. This devalues him a fair bit. We would need to add to get Wright & maybe Laffrenier. Imagine we had these guys. And what we'd want for them. Wright would cost a lot. Lafrenierre is appearing to be a bustaroo. His value has dropped significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Boston fans think it’s alright to marry your cousin so… What if your cousin is a looker though? Just try and resist. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: No he just let everyone walk while he was considering getting to working on contract offers for our teams starter, top defenseman and key players at the time. The goalie situation has been debated into obliviousness... it was either Marky or Demko. As soon as Bubble Demko showed up, the problem arose. Prior to that, they may have held on to Marky and tried to sneak Demko through. Way too much crying (only my opinion) over the winger, and the fact that Tanev turned into iron man in Calgary, was not something anyone could foreseen. the list of trade proposal including Tanev was endless as he was 'too old' and 'too injury prone'.... He was never properly replaced and that was/still is a major problem. He has still not been replaced... It was disappointing to see Tanev and Marky go, but understandable. If anything, Benning should be held accountable for not knowing, that Demko was good enough to take over, and thus trade either Marky or Demko at TDL. For the record I was also annoyed to see Tanev go... Edited January 21, 2023 by spook007 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Looks like more a more teams wanting Bo…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: Boston fans saying they'd do Lysell + 1st + Mike Reilly for Bo. Yikes. Lysell + Reilly + Carlo + 1st For Bo + Schenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I think we are falling into that unrealistic expectations range again. If you land Morrow, the right handed offensive dman to go with Kotkaniemi whom is still projecting to be a top six centre and say a 2nd or maybe a 2nd in 23' and a 2nd in 24' you probably take that for a rental do you not ? Maybe if Horvat had a high cap hit or had some sort of NTC that handcuffs the team. He has a cheap cap hit and lots of teams are interested. Price goes up Your proposal is fairly on par with what Giroux returned. Tippet 1st and a 3rd. Giroux had all the power and would only agree to being traded to (2) teams and wasn’t having as good a season as Horvat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Looks like more a more teams wanting Bo…. LA has always been the team I’ve hoped for . Turcotte would be the main piece and their 1st rd pick would actually be decent. Could potentially slip out of playoffs Edmonton I wonder about Broberg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, spook007 said: The goalie situation has been debated into obliviousness... it was either Marky or Demko. As soon as Bubble Demko showed stood up, the problem arose. Prior to that, they may have held on to Marky and tried to sneak Demko through. Way too much crying (only my opinion) over the winger, and the fact that Demko turned into iron man in Calgary, was not simething anyone could forseen. the list of trade proposal including Tanev was endless as he was 'too old' and 'too injury prone'.... He was never properly replaced and that was/stiil is a major problem. He has still not been replaced... It was dissapointing to see Tanev and Marky go, but understandable. If anthing, Benning should be held accountable for not knowing, that Demko was good enough to take over, and thus trade either Marky or Demko at TDL. For the record I was also annoyed to see Tanev go... Yeah, the goalie/ED situation was what it was. Who was management at the time doesn't really matter. Tanev, was the biggest loss there and even then, I get with the age, injuries etc that there was certainly reason to move on there. The problem is that we never replaced him. I more upset that they didn't move Virtanen that year while he still had some semblance of value. I would have added to him to get the also at the time, struggling "18 year old". Imagine how much better we'd look right now with Bennett at 3C.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Looks like more a more teams wanting Bo…. Good, get everyone involved. Drives the price up or at least gives us the best chance of getting the piece we need 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: Edmonton I wonder about Broberg 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Off_The_Schneid! said: LA has always been the team I’ve hoped for . Turcotte would be the main piece and their 1st rd pick would actually be decent. Could potentially slip out of playoffs Edmonton I wonder about Broberg LA is deep in RHD, if there's a deal to be made it should include that piece +. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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