Fanuck Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Full control within the perimeters set by the owner, sure. No rebuilding moves. Been the direction set by this owner since he bought the club. And we’ve heard many reports from other “insiders” that’s the case. Exactly. If FA can screw a local legend like Trevor, then I have zero doubt he'd do the same to an outsider with no ties whatsoever to this community. I've said it before, billionaires don't hand over the keys to their precious kingdoms unconditionally to total strangers to do as they like, would anybody do that if they were FA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Canucks-12 said: Which ever team Bo gets traded to ima be cheering for them. There's at least half dozen teams that if Bo goes to, even knowing it's not his choice, he ceases to exist to me - Bos, NYR, CHI, ect....I'm old school for better or worse, if you join my enemies you are my enemy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks-12 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 10 hours ago, N4ZZY said: well, the Canucks right now are hard to cheer for, so I wouldn't blame you at all. The Canucks will still be my favourite team but that Bo’s team will become my 2nd favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Fanuck said: Exactly. If FA can screw a local legend like Trevor, then I have zero doubt he'd do the same to an outsider with no ties whatsoever to this community. I've said it before, billionaires don't hand over the keys to their precious kingdoms unconditionally to total strangers to do as they like, would anybody do that if they were FA? ‘billionaires’ are not a monolithic whole that all act the same, Hiring a President is not an unconditional handing over of a proverbial ‘kingdom’, Rutherford is not a total stranger, and there is a wide berth between total autonomy and owners pet who must do everything said owner dictates (acting like it must be one or the other is a bit foolhardy). I’m not convinced Francesco is a hands off owner by any means, but some of the assumptions being made (I’m thinking of the over sized hamster @Alflives) are probably a little over the top. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofaith Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Any contract negotiation for Bo at this point is going to start at 9 million. Why? Several years younger than Miller. Natural Centre. Dedication to his craft as a hockey player and exemplifies same approach to game as hall of fame mentors, sedin brothers. Steady improvements yoy and predictable yoy production The last remaining true culture carrier for this team. Played without quality wingers for significant portions of his time here really backed ourselves into a corner signing miller AND Brock Edited December 21, 2022 by Zerofaith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Future Canuck Lysell just scored Edited December 21, 2022 by J-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Zerofaith said: Any contract negotiation for Bo at this point is going to start at 9 million. Why? Several years younger than Miller. Natural Centre. Dedication to his craft as a hockey player and exemplifies same approach to game as hall of fame mentors, sedin brothers. Steady improvements yoy and predictable yoy production The last remaining true culture carrier for this team. Played without quality wingers for significant portions of his time here really backed ourselves into a corner signing miller AND Brock LMAO! Several!!! try 2 years difference, and Bo has only just shown up. Miller been 1 ppg for 5 seasons with us, still is. We had the “we choked” Captain. and another who decided to be a “Punching bag” Bo is now one of the “Chickens running with heads cut off” 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Miller been 1 ppg for 5 seasons with us 019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks NHL 31 11 16 27 28 -11 Wasn't a point a game in 20-21, not a point a game this year; and only here 4 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, J-23 said: Future Canuck Lysell just scored You really think a guy named Fabian is the answer to our problems? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, SilentSam said: LMAO! Several!!! try 2 years difference, and Bo has only just shown up. Miller been 1 ppg for 5 seasons with us, still is. We had the “we choked” Captain. and another who decided to be a “Punching bag” Bo is now one of the “Chickens running with heads cut off” Bo has not "only just showed up" cut that bull shit. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gurn said: 019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks NHL 31 11 16 27 28 -11 Wasn't a point a game in 20-21, not a point a game this year; and only here 4 years. Sad he worships a consistent play quitter and does nothing but shit on Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Sad he worships a consistent play quitter and does nothing but shit on Bo. I'm fine with everyone having an opinion, but not their own facts. hat said, I've been wrong with numbers before- and likely will be again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gurn said: 019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks NHL 31 11 16 27 28 -11 Wasn't a point a game in 20-21, not a point a game this year; and only here 4 years. He has been PPG as a Canuck though. 244 points in 233 games. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Here's an idea. Bo agrees to go to a contender(and play for the Cup) and we get a reasonable return. In compensation, we give Bo a reasonable new contract. If Bo is "THE" Captain , as many of you allude to, then he will agree. If not, then I guess we have our answer of what Bo is really about. I wished the Sedins would have done something similar, but that didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Here's an idea. Bo agrees to go to a contender(and play for the Cup) and we get a reasonable return. In compensation, we give Bo a reasonable new contract. If Bo is "THE" Captain , as many of you allude to, then he will agree. If not, then I guess we have our answer of what Bo is really about. I wished the Sedins would have done something similar, but that didn't happen. Firstly- what do you think is reasonable for Bo to sign? 2- I don't think Bo cares what we think is reasonable 3-Why does he have to comeback and prove something? 4 why does the team not sign him? are they being unreasonable? 5 If the team doesn't sign him- why is that not the teams fault? 6 Why should Bo do the 'team thing' when the team has show such disrespect; allegedly, with the paycut proposal, and signing Miller first? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screw Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Man. I hope the team starts to stockpile draft picks. Only way I see forward for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Zerofaith said: Any contract negotiation for Bo at this point is going to start at 9 million. Why? Several years younger than Miller. Natural Centre. Dedication to his craft as a hockey player and exemplifies same approach to game as hall of fame mentors, sedin brothers. Steady improvements yoy and predictable yoy production The last remaining true culture carrier for this team. Played without quality wingers for significant portions of his time here really backed ourselves into a corner signing miller AND Brock ‘really backed ourselves into a corner signing miller AND Brock’…. We sure did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey Castiglione Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 At this point, I don't think anything is going to happen. Management is going to continue to sit on their hands and blame the snow for being too cold to move their hands from under their asses, hence the roster freeze. "See, we told you so!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gurn said: Firstly- what do you think is reasonable for Bo to sign? 2- I don't think Bo cares what we think is reasonable 3-Why does he have to comeback and prove something? 4 why does the team not sign him? are they being unreasonable? 5 If the team doesn't sign him- why is that not the teams fault? 6 Why should Bo do the 'team thing' when the team has show such disrespect; allegedly, with the paycut proposal, and signing Miller first? I guess it boils down to what kind of leadership do we want for this team moving forward. Are we alright with just being OK? Reasonable I mean, comparable to others with his abilities. I am not talking about what he has been able to do for the last 40-50 games but his NHL career. He is getting paid millions of dollars to play a game, what kind of disrespect is he being shown? I think he might be a little "entitled" if he is worried about the things you are implying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Gurn said: 019-20 Vancouver Canucks NHL 69 27 45 72 47 11 17 6 12 18 14 2020-21 Vancouver Canucks NHL 53 15 31 46 43 -7 -- -- -- -- -- 2021-22 Vancouver Canucks NHL 80 32 67 99 47 15 -- -- -- -- -- 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks NHL 31 11 16 27 28 -11 Wasn't a point a game in 20-21, not a point a game this year; and only here 4 years. 46 points in a 53 game year durring Covid .. stretch it however you like Gurn.. Stretch it the other way and he is 244 points in 243 games with the Canucks. Get over the “school teaching” and realize this is the best player we’ve had in this Org for quite some time. ps, Boeser and Horvat will decline more rapidly, and still, at a lesser average than Miller over the next 3-4 seasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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