EB43 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I’m hearing reports that Bo wants to play closer to home and in an Ontario market.. word is he would like to be traded to an Ontario team, his wife likes Ontario. Bo to Ontario E5, let’s discuss this for 1200 pages. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogs & Podz Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, gurn said: if last year did not happen Bo has more points per game than Miller; so I guess in a way you are right it isn't close. Bo is the more valuable player. thanks Do you mean?.... 'Hope this helps...' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hogs & Podz said: Do you mean?.... 'Hope this helps...' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, secksii said: If horvat is signing 8yrs, I think it'll be closer to 6m range. I predict AAV 6.6 X 7 yrs - For Horvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, gurn said: if last year did not happen Bo has more points per game than Miller; so I guess in a way you are right it isn't close. Bo is the more valuable player. thanks Sure okay. Unfortunately in contract negotiations you can’t just pick and choose which seasons to compare. Would be nice but come back to reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Sure okay. Unfortunately in contract negotiations you can’t just pick and choose which seasons to compare. Would be nice but come back to reality. Whatever you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, gurn said: Whatever you say. It’s not what I say it’s reality. Agents don’t negotiate by saying “let’s just ignore this players last season, then they’re equal, right?” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: It’s not what I say it’s reality. Agents don’t negotiate by saying “let’s just ignore this players last season, then they’re equal, right?” did you forget the part where you said this " but offensively he’s not been close to Millers level of production." then I provided numbers that clearly indicate Bo IS close to Miller's production, and is even better if last year is removed? I didn't forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, gurn said: did you forget the part where you said this " but offensively he’s not been close to Millers level of production." then I provided numbers that clearly indicate Bo IS close to Miller's production, and is even better if last year is removed? I didn't forget that. Yes but you can’t remove seasons in comparisons just to fit your narrative. 99 points and 52 points are not close. Those numbers will 100% be part of any negotiation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disgruntler Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 59 minutes ago, gurn said: Miller- 637 games 169 goals 285 assists for 454 points points per game .712 Bo 572 games 170 goals 196 assists for 366 points points per game .639 Looks close to me, wonder what it looks like if last year isn't in there? Miller 557 games 137 goals 218 assists for 355 points or .637 ppg Bo 487 games 139 goals 175 assists for 314 points or .644 ppg It would seem that Bo is a very, very comparable player. What are their FO %? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disgruntler Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, gurn said: Miller- 637 games 169 goals 285 assists for 454 points points per game .712 Bo 572 games 170 goals 196 assists for 366 points points per game .639 Looks close to me, wonder what it looks like if last year isn't in there? Miller 557 games 137 goals 218 assists for 355 points or .637 ppg Bo 487 games 139 goals 175 assists for 314 points or .644 ppg It would seem that Bo is a very, very comparable player. What are their FO %? Miller: 54.2 Horvat: 57.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yes but you can’t remove seasons in comparisons just to fit your narrative. 99 points and 52 points are not close. Those numbers will 100% be part of any negotiation. And you can't use an outlier year to make a determination that " he’s not been close to Millers level of production." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, gurn said: And you can't use an outlier year to make a determination that " he’s not been close to Millers level of production." Except you can’t call it an outlier until you see what he does next season. No agent is seriously going to negotiate by calling a players latest season “an outlier”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Disgruntler said: What are their FO %? Miller: 54.2 Horvat: 57.0 So? Minor when negotiating contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) IF .. he’s traded , I think the Isles would take Horvat ,Poolman & Rathbone = aprx 9m cap hit for JP Pageau and Noah Dobson. = aprx 9m cap hit we get the same F/O percentage back out of JP, and that D hole filled. Should be able to move Myers at TDL if not before. LL loves Bo Edited September 3, 2022 by SilentSam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted September 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2022 It's interesting to me that there's so much interest generated in our lacklustre non contending team. No, you can't have Bo either. 3 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: IF .. he’s traded , I think the Isles would take Horvat ,Poolman & Rathbone = aprx 9m cap hit for JP Pageau and Noah Dobson. = aprx 9m cap hit we get the same F/O percentage back out of JP, and that D hole filled. Should be able to move Myers at TDL if not before. LL loves Bo He didn’t love him that much since he passed on the opportunity to draft him to trade for Cory Schneider. Bo ain’t going anywhere. I hope this deal gets done soon so we don’t have to read a bunch of crazy trade proposals again… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNeil Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I think this thread needs a catchier title if its going to get to 1300 pages by next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disgruntler Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, DeNiro said: So? Minor when negotiating contracts. Wasn't making a statement, was curious as to how they matched up on that front. They're both monsters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 yrs for term, totaling 50 mill. C'mon Cap'n..give us a conveniently low AAV to help boost the overall depth! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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