The Lock Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, JM_ said: I'd like to see him in an assistant role here first but I like the energy he'd bring to it. Watch him go to other GMs and ask them to hockey fight for prospects. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, 13231 said: All the trade discussion here sounds baseless and premature right now. What the quotes from the organization and common sense suggests is that the team will be evaluated carefully now, as to where it clearly stands under the new coaching staff. Everything will be determined from that point forward. Up until the Olympic break would be the timeline I assume. While I agree, nothing seismic is likely to happen any time soon, Is there something bad about discussing potential/likely moves for 2-3+months down the road? I think it's pretty plain to see that one of Miller, Boeser, or long shot, Horvat are the most likely pieces that management would look to move at some point over the next +/- year to solve the Forward/Defense imbalance. Nothing wrong with people discussing it on a discussion board. 6 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: That's his qualifying offer price. All you're saying here is that you think Boeser will be resigned. I've come to realize that like half this board has zero idea how QO's work or what they mean 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: He has a 3 year deal. He will be going for a cup next year. Rathbone gone , this year's firsts and seconds gone. Pittsburgh had one first rounder in 7 years. He made 59 trades in 5 years. That's a trade a month Did you even listen to what the man himself said yesterday? He said it’s a different situation here than it was in Pittsburgh and that they aren’t looking to trade futures, they want to build with futures. I have never seen someone so obsessed with completely ignoring any context to go full on panic mode about something that hasn’t even happened yet. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad alice french Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 11 minutes ago, appleboy said: He is a win now kind of guy if he has what it takes to win. He doesn't have the cap space to sign Boeser to a big increase and then build a defense. I bet he looks at this team and decides that they are a few years away. He's gonna move Petey. Some team will bite on his potential and load up a nice package. This team is still flawed in my opinion., It's been fun for a couple games but we are well short on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bad alice french said: He's gonna move Petey. Some team will bite on his potential and load up a nice package. This team is still flawed in my opinion., It's been fun for a couple games but we are well short on players. Depending on the return, I think I'd be okay with that. Petey seems like a bit of a headcase. It's not just that he's in a bad slump. It's his demeanor. He always looks like he's morbidly depressed. I just don't see how we're supposed to build around a guy that's that emotionally fragile. Edited December 10, 2021 by 48MPHSlapShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: I have never seen someone so obsessed with completely ignoring any context to go full on panic mode about something that hasn’t even happened yet. Like you with the OEL trade...? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyman109 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 20 hours ago, wildwood12 said: Who is Mc Farland? sorry Macfarland from Colorado. AGM there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 hours ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: Yeah and in hockey , these guys lie like politicians. Remember a week ago , reports surfaced that "the Canucks were NOT interested in Jimmy Rutherford" ? Well Aqualini was most likely sitting in Rutherfords home when those reports came out. I made the mistake of believing them. It was the exact opposite of the truth. I'll bet anyone $50 via Interac Email transfer that our 1st round pick will be gone in 6 months. Maybe if i reverse jinx this enough , it won't happen. What reports surfaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, aGENT said: Like you with the OEL trade...? At least I waited until there was actual evidence that something COULD happen there before giving my opinion it was a bad idea to trade for that long term cap hell. Not like this guy who literally wigged out 2 min after Rutherford was hired and in spite of what the guy himself said about how he was approaching things here. Talking about what might happen is fine. Suggesting it undoubtedly will happen with no actual smoke to the flame is just unhinged. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 We have never had a gunslinger GM. Another example of a gunslinger like Jim Rutherford is Paul Holmgren. He was a gunslinger and it might have cost Philly cups. The Richards and Carter trades is vintage gunslinger action. I would have preferred Holmgren if we were gonna gunsling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Potential candidates for the Vancouver Canucks GM position John Shannon: Whoever the Vancouver Canucks hire as their next GM, things will run through Jim Rutherford. Any Canucks list of potential candidates will include Jason Karmanos. Thomas Drance and Harman Dayal of The Athletic: A big list of potential GM candidates in no order: Jason Botterill, Stan Smyl, Mike Gillis, Laurence Gilman, Hayley Wickenheiser, Marc Bergevin, Scott Mellanby, Eustance King, Chris MacFarland, Ryan Johnson, Henrik and Daniel Sedin, J.P. Barry, Josh Flynn, Mike Futa, Ray Ferraro, Craig Conroy, Ross Mahoney, John Ferguson Jr., Kevin Weeks, Alexandrea Mandrycky, and John Chayka I am shocked to see such names like Chayka and Botterill on this list. Both did serious damage to their franchises - the Arizona coyotes and buffalo sabres.Interesting to see a woman on this list with Hayley. For those who want to see the Canucks becoming more diverse hiring Hayley would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 27 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Did you even listen to what the man himself said yesterday? He said it’s a different situation here than it was in Pittsburgh and that they aren’t looking to trade futures, they want to build with futures. I have never seen someone so obsessed with completely ignoring any context to go full on panic mode about something that hasn’t even happened yet. I missed that - what media was he on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Potential candidates for the Vancouver Canucks GM position John Shannon: Whoever the Vancouver Canucks hire as their next GM, things will run through Jim Rutherford. Any Canucks list of potential candidates will include Jason Karmanos. Thomas Drance and Harman Dayal of The Athletic: A big list of potential GM candidates in no order: Jason Botterill, Stan Smyl, Mike Gillis, Laurence Gilman, Hayley Wickenheiser, Marc Bergevin, Scott Mellanby, Eustance King, Chris MacFarland, Ryan Johnson, Henrik and Daniel Sedin, J.P. Barry, Josh Flynn, Mike Futa, Ray Ferraro, Craig Conroy, Ross Mahoney, John Ferguson Jr., Kevin Weeks, Alexandrea Mandrycky, and John Chayka I am shocked to see such names like Chayka and Botterill on this list. Both did serious damage to their franchises - the Arizona coyotes and buffalo sabres.Interesting to see a woman on this list with Hayley. For those who want to see the Canucks becoming more diverse hiring Hayley would be great. John Ferguson Jr. How is he still in hockey ? That would truly be the nightmare scenario 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, aGENT said: While I agree, nothing seismic is likely to happen any time soon, Is there something bad about discussing potential/likely moves for 2-3+months down the road? I think it's pretty plain to see that one of Miller, Boeser, or long shot, Horvat are the most likely pieces that management would look to move at some point over the next +/- year to solve the Forward/Defense imbalance. Nothing wrong with people discussing it on a discussion board. I've come to realize that like half this board has zero idea how QO's work or what they mean I would suspect the process would be to see what Boeser's camp wants to do, and if its not reasonable or do-able for some reason then they'd look to move him before long. If a team friendly (or at least not crushing) extension is possible then its Miller. Can't see Bo being on the block, he's just too valuable and reliable. Cap-wise our hands are tied through next season anyway so its going to take time to construct any kind of deal to move players in, unless its Miller for picks which seems less likely to me. But who knows. Lets see where we are by the Olympic break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, JM_ said: I missed that - what media was he on? I think it was Patrick Johnson who reported that he spoke to Rutherford and that’s what he told him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, MaxVerstappen33 said: John Ferguson Jr. How is he still in hockey ? That would truly be the nightmare scenario Start a new thread about JFJ now. I dare you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post combover Posted December 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said: Potential candidates for the Vancouver Canucks GM position John Shannon: Whoever the Vancouver Canucks hire as their next GM, things will run through Jim Rutherford. Any Canucks list of potential candidates will include Jason Karmanos. Thomas Drance and Harman Dayal of The Athletic: A big list of potential GM candidates in no order: Jason Botterill, Stan Smyl, Mike Gillis, Laurence Gilman, Hayley Wickenheiser, Marc Bergevin, Scott Mellanby, Eustance King, Chris MacFarland, Ryan Johnson, Henrik and Daniel Sedin, J.P. Barry, Josh Flynn, Mike Futa, Ray Ferraro, Craig Conroy, Ross Mahoney, John Ferguson Jr., Kevin Weeks, Alexandrea Mandrycky, and John Chayka I am shocked to see such names like Chayka and Botterill on this list. Both did serious damage to their franchises - the Arizona coyotes and buffalo sabres.Interesting to see a woman on this list with Hayley. For those who want to see the Canucks becoming more diverse hiring Hayley would be great. They just named everyone they could think of lol. Like a weatherman this time of year predicting sun cloud rain snow wind in Vancouver. Then saying nailed it when one happens lol. those guys (drance and friends) are worthless. Edited December 10, 2021 by combover 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Just now, combover said: They just named everyone they could think of lol. Like a weatherman this time of year predicting sun cloud rain snow wind in Vancouver. They saying bailed it when one happens lol. those guys (drance and friends) are worthless. Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Wickenheiser would be an interesting choice for a few reasons. Smart (she's a doctor), knows how to win, has had to work hard to get what she's earned, so I like all of that. Having JR as a mentor and guys like Gear to assist with contracts would set her up well in the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxVerstappen33 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Start a new thread about JFJ now. I dare you. Anyone but JFJ ? Nah. It didn't work out the last time 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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