-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekky Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Not surprised to see this coming with a record like this why wasn't he fired sooner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Trivia question: When was the last time a head coach was fired in the following season after making the Stanley Cup Final in the previous season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 As per a friend who is a Habs fan, they were running the same risk we were with Green of causing permanent damage to their young players. He'll be very happy with this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Ducharme took a mediocre team to the finals, then had to deal with a depleted roster the following year. Montreal's struggles are more to do with Bergevin and bad luck with injuries than the coach IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, King Heffy said: As per a friend who is a Habs fan, they were running the same risk we were with Green of causing permanent damage to their young players. He'll be very happy with this. You think the damage done by Green is permanent? I hope not. But yeah, I'm glad he is gone. He should have been fired last season with that record, a last place finish in the North division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, khay said: You think the damage done by Green is permanent? I hope not. But yeah, I'm glad he is gone. He should have been fired last season with that record, a last place finish in the North division. I think if he'd been allowed to coach the rest of the year it could have been. He's definitely caused permanent damage thanks to the disastrous training camp cuts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I wonder if there are any french speaking coaches left for the habs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 rough year. SC Finals to basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 why bother? Just wait for the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, BureBurrito said: rough year. SC Finals to basement. AV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 This was caused by the grossly over performing run to the cup combined with the inevitable decline/injuries to aging players - their franchise was set up perfectly for a colossal down-turn. Neither ownership nor management (nor many fans for that matter) accurately gauged the actual level of the club - they were both blinded by 'their run' and this is the result. They should be looking at a full-on fire-sale at the TDL of any assets of any value and/or any assets willing to waive their clauses. You keep Suzuki/Caufield/Guhle and the rest........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, hammertime said: why bother? Just wait for the offseason. That was initially the plan but the situation was getting worse by the day that they had to do something. Petry from the get go has been vocal about how they had no system. Montreal media has continued to talk of how poorly coached the team has been under Ducharme. The risk is creating such a negative atmosphere that it hurts the confidence and development of their young players. Again today before the announcement Basu wrote: "The coaching deficiencies on this team appear to be a very real impediment to what Hughes hopes to create over the second half of the season. That atmosphere of hockey being fun. When Anderson says it is not fun to come to the rink, that hockey is not fun, that should be a serious red flag." There's no reason to go another half a season with players being just miserable. Even if they are out of the playoffs they can continue to teach and develop players but they need a more positive environment. Edited February 9, 2022 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, hammertime said: why bother? Just wait for the offseason. If they go on a Boudreau type run, there would still be time to miss out on their Bedard chances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, hammertime said: why bother? Just wait for the offseason. Because you don't want a bad coach causing permanent damage to the players. Look at how long it's taken to restore Petey's confidence now that he's playing under an actual NHL coach. Gorton has likely seen enough to not be willing to take that risk. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey2Dope Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Trivia question: When was the last time a head coach was fired in the following season after making the Stanley Cup Final in the previous season? Unless I'm forgetting someone, I think it was Michel Therrien who was fired after the Penguins lost to the Red Wings in the 07-08 final. Edited February 9, 2022 by Mikey2Dope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mikey2Dope said: Unless I'm forgetting someone, I think it was Michel Therrien who was fired after the Penguins lost to the Red Wings in the 07-08 final. Yep, unless you count Washington not trying to keep Trotz after they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, mll said: That was initially the plan but the situation was getting worse by the day that they had to do something. Petry from the get go has been vocal about how they had no system. Montreal media has continued to talk of how poorly coached the team has been under Ducharme. The risk is creating such a negative atmosphere that it hurts the confidence and development of their young players. Again today before the announcement Basu wrote: "The coaching deficiencies on this team appear to be a very real impediment to what Hughes hopes to create over the second half of the season. That atmosphere of hockey being fun. When Anderson says it is not fun to come to the rink, that hockey is not fun, that should be a serious red flag." There's no reason to go another half a season with players being just miserable. Even if they are out of the playoffs they can continue to teach and develop players but they need a more positive environment. Yeah you really get that sense that the fun has been sucked out of it for them. Two of their players have had to step away for mental health issues recently as well which could have been the result of pressure from the city and negative work environment. You could see something similar for the Canucks at the begging of this season, where everyone kinda looked miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Usually I'd say "HIRE AV" but I don't want him going into that mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Let Burr finish the year as an interim head coach. Not sure if the assistants are gone too though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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