Gollumpus Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Well, what is a reasonable offer for Hughes? - 2022 7th OA? okay - 2023 1st rnd pick? perhaps - other higher lvl picks? sure - prospects? maybe.... - players? maybe not The Devils do not impress me as a deep team. Would they like to add Quinn Hughes? Sure. What players on their current roster would they be willing to give up? Hischier? Which of those guys would the Canucks want (based on age, on the skill level of the player, etc). How many of those could the Canucks afford on their cap? Or are the potential prospects still in an early developmental stage? They may perhaps become good players, but how long will it take for them to become "good"? I don't see Hughes being traded in this case. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Gollumpus said: Well, what is a reasonable offer for Hughes? - 2022 7th OA? okay - 2023 1st rnd pick? perhaps - other higher lvl picks? sure - prospects? maybe.... - players? maybe not The Devils do not impress me as a deep team. Would they like to add Quinn Hughes? Sure. What players on their current roster would they be willing to give up? Hischier? Which of those guys would the Canucks want (based on age, on the skill level of the player, etc). How many of those could the Canucks afford on their cap? Or are the potential prospects still in an early developmental stage? They may perhaps become good players, but how long will it take for them to become "good"? I don't see Hughes being traded in this case. regards, G. Me no serious. Me joking. Me have nothing to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, Me_ said: Me no serious. Me joking. Me have nothing to say. Yup, I gotcha. I was just looking at it from a serious perspective. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcheeze86 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Huggy is not getting traded stop talking about it 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Gollumpus said: Yup, I gotcha. I was just looking at it from a serious perspective. regards, G. Trading Hughes is not serious. Seriously… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Me_ said: Trading Hughes is not serious. Seriously… Well................... I could see trading Hughes, for the right price, but it would be for a hefty amount. I would want a high 1st, and a Chychrun type of d-man (size, age, skating, physical style of play, etc), a younger top-6 forward (scoring potential, skating, hockey IQ, etc), plus additional picks/prospects. Now, the Canucks wouldn't get that from just one team, so a number of teams would have to be involved, which would be far too complicated to make such a deal work. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Me_ said: Trading Hughes is not serious. Seriously… Fitzgerald says they have to get better down low, more physical in boxing out players. Says he likes their defence but they have to work on their physicality to be harder to play against. He likes their D-corps and it's not like Quinn fits the profile of what he says they want on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) We're on a Canucks board where fans discuss players, in the trades, rumours, and signing section. You don't have to like it, or even agree, but folks can discuss trading whoever they like. Doesn't mean it'll happen, as I see a Hughes trade being unlikely, but policing who folks can and can't propose trading is silly. I like x, stop discussing trading x, it's ridiculous. Forums are for discussion, live and let live. Edited May 17, 2022 by Coconuts 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: We're on a Canucks board where fans discuss players, in the trades, rumours, and signing section. You don't have to like it, or even agree, but folks can discuss trading whoever they like. Doesn't mean it'll happen, as I see a Hughes trade being unlikely, but policing who folks can and can't propose trading is silly. I like x, stop discussing trading x, it's ridiculous. Forums are for discussion, live and let live. I agree in the sense that if you're gonna disagree with the idea of trading a player. At least participate in the discussion. Coming here just to say "Not happening, don't talk about it" feels very lame. Lol. Like, I've pushed back on trading Boeser. But I at least try to discuss why it doesn't make sense in my eyes. Coming here to shut down discussion is the equivalent of going to a birthday party and just popping balloons for no reason. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiznak Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gollumpus said: Well, what is a reasonable offer for Hughes? - 2022 7th OA? okay - 2023 1st rnd pick? perhaps - other higher lvl picks? sure - prospects? maybe.... - players? maybe not The Devils do not impress me as a deep team. Would they like to add Quinn Hughes? Sure. What players on their current roster would they be willing to give up? Hischier? Which of those guys would the Canucks want (based on age, on the skill level of the player, etc). How many of those could the Canucks afford on their cap? Or are the potential prospects still in an early developmental stage? They may perhaps become good players, but how long will it take for them to become "good"? I don't see Hughes being traded in this case. regards, G. Severson - Top pairing, right handed two-way defensemen. Eats up a lot of hard minutes. Bahl - Potential top 6 shutdown defensemen. Sharangovich - Versatile top 6 forward, who gives you 20+ goals. 2nd overall pick (I prefer Nemec) - Potential right handed two-way franchise defensemen. Hard to say no to this deal, when you’re essentially getting 3 (potentially 4) quality NHL players for one. Edited May 17, 2022 by shiznak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Gollumpus said: Well................... I could see trading Hughes, for the right price, but it would be for a hefty amount. I would want a high 1st, and a Chychrun type of d-man (size, age, skating, physical style of play, etc), a younger top-6 forward (scoring potential, skating, hockey IQ, etc), plus additional picks/prospects. Now, the Canucks wouldn't get that from just one team, so a number of teams would have to be involved, which would be far too complicated to make such a deal work. regards, G. In other words, he’s not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, shiznak said: Severson - Top pairing, right handed two-way defensemen. Eats up a lot of hard minutes. Bahl - Potential top 6 shutdown defensemen. Sharangovich - Versatile top 6 forward, who gives you 20+ goals. 2nd overall pick (I prefer Nemec) - Potential right handed two-way franchise defensemen. Hard to say no to this deal, when you’re essentially getting 3 (potentially 4) quality NHL players for one. I just want to say no, so that the Devils don’t have three Hughes brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 17 hours ago, Me_ said: Can’t even believe we’re talking about trading Hughes. This is the "NJ 2nd OA in play" thread on a discussion board........that's what you do, you discuss the topic. If the Canucks were interested in that pick, Hughes would be the guy they want, hence the discussion around Hughes. No one wants to get "rid" of Hughes, but that's the discussion at hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 15 hours ago, Gollumpus said: Well, what is a reasonable offer for Hughes? - 2022 7th OA? okay - 2023 1st rnd pick? perhaps - other higher lvl picks? sure - prospects? maybe.... - players? maybe not The Devils do not impress me as a deep team. Would they like to add Quinn Hughes? Sure. What players on their current roster would they be willing to give up? Hischier? Which of those guys would the Canucks want (based on age, on the skill level of the player, etc). How many of those could the Canucks afford on their cap? Or are the potential prospects still in an early developmental stage? They may perhaps become good players, but how long will it take for them to become "good"? I don't see Hughes being traded in this case. regards, G. I think a reasonable offer would be the 2nd OA, Holtz, Severson and either another roster player or pick in 2023, but no team on the path to a lottery pick is giving up their first in 2023, no chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Gollumpus said: Well................... I could see trading Hughes, for the right price, but it would be for a hefty amount. I would want a high 1st, and a Chychrun type of d-man (size, age, skating, physical style of play, etc), a younger top-6 forward (scoring potential, skating, hockey IQ, etc), plus additional picks/prospects. Now, the Canucks wouldn't get that from just one team, so a number of teams would have to be involved, which would be far too complicated to make such a deal work. regards, G. Then you’re not serious. You may not even be a Canucks fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 8 hours ago, mll said: Fitzgerald says they have to get better down low, more physical in boxing out players. Says he likes their defence but they have to work on their physicality to be harder to play against. He likes their D-corps and it's not like Quinn fits the profile of what he says they want on D. Right. So trade the best D the Canucks have ever had. Completely logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 hour ago, stawns said: This is the "NJ 2nd OA in play" thread on a discussion board........that's what you do, you discuss the topic. If the Canucks were interested in that pick, Hughes would be the guy they want, hence the discussion around Hughes. No one wants to get "rid" of Hughes, but that's the discussion at hand. Blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Liszt Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Garland, Hoglander, 15th OA For 2nd OA? I really want Slafkofský Edited May 17, 2022 by Franz Liszt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, Me_ said: Right. So trade the best D the Canucks have ever had. Completely logical. It's not for either team. Guess it depends if you think NJD are more interested in a marketing stint vs actually building a team that can win a Cup. Poorly constructed lines/pairings aren't going to help them win. It's not just about individual talent but how all the pieces fit together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 On 5/16/2022 at 3:24 PM, Gollumpus said: Well, what is a reasonable offer for Hughes? - 2022 7th OA? okay - 2023 1st rnd pick? perhaps - other higher lvl picks? sure - prospects? maybe.... - players? maybe not The Devils do not impress me as a deep team. Would they like to add Quinn Hughes? Sure. What players on their current roster would they be willing to give up? Hischier? Which of those guys would the Canucks want (based on age, on the skill level of the player, etc). How many of those could the Canucks afford on their cap? Or are the potential prospects still in an early developmental stage? They may perhaps become good players, but how long will it take for them to become "good"? I don't see Hughes being traded in this case. regards, G. Honestly nothing. He's our franchise player. He'll be the face of the Canucks for the next decade. We've never had a defenseman like him, we'll probably never get another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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