DrJockitch Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: I do remember a time when he had some pretty credible reports and good news. Then almost overnight during Covid I believe he turned into a complete hack making up sh!t left right and center while throwing people under the bus. It was quite noticeable to me to the point I just ignore what he says now unless it's a direct quote from someone. Sounds like he is filling the hole the Tony Gallagher left when he retired. Bitter hack that hates athletes reporting on sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: I do remember a time when he had some pretty credible reports and good news. Then almost overnight during Covid I believe he turned into a complete hack making up sh!t left right and center while throwing people under the bus. It was quite noticeable to me to the point I just ignore what he says now unless it's a direct quote from someone. I mean, definitely always take him or anyone else with a grain of salt, but he's definitely not just making stuff up but rather "reporting" what his contacts are saying. Anyhoogan, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Coconuts said: Yew? Cedar? Pine? Gotta start with a B you'd think. Bustaroo Cedar just doesn't have the same ring to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Sounds like he is filling the hole the Tony Gallagher left when he retired. Bitter hack that hates athletes reporting on sports. So true. Reminds me of Drance except add never played a sport, had an exemption in gym class, and has never actually watched a hockey game, and probably doesn't like hockey either. 2 minutes ago, Jester13 said: I mean, definitely always take him or anyone else with a grain of salt, but he's definitely not just making stuff up but rather "reporting" what his contacts are saying. Anyhoogan, it doesn't matter. Yeah I hear ya. Not that it matters really bud I did notice that shift from serious reporting to fabrication/tabloid style. He definitely talks to agents though so like you said we just need to wade through it all. Edited June 16, 2022 by Gawdzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureBurrito Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Dhaliwal didn't want to say (or pretended not to say) but Canucks may kick the tires on Malkin (they also mentioned Letang but I don't see that happening). If Miller goes for picks, I can see Malkin in the top 6 as a short term gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Me_ said: For a chump who won’t be ready for another 3-4 years? Perpetual rebuilding. got it. The misconception here is that the Canucks have EVER really rebuilt. Even the years where we drafted high it was almost accidental. Canucks quite frankly have a history of waiting too long and losing value on their players. How many times in history have we had a top two pick? 3? 4? It has worked out well every single time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Baratheon said: The misconception here is that the Canucks have EVER really rebuilt. Even the years where we drafted high it was almost accidental. Canucks quite frankly have a history of waiting too long and losing value on their players. How many times in history have we had a top two pick? 3? 4? It has worked out well every single time! Um…. They’re rebuilt. Only Horvat remains from the time Benning took over. Drafted we’re Hughes, Pettersson, Boeser, Demko, and a whole bunch of other ones. Miller for a 1st. That’s a rebuild. Edited June 16, 2022 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBossy Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 14 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: 14 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: I can kind of see Boeser in a Devils jersey on Hughes' wing. Boeser and the #15 for the #2? Not sure it would be worth it, would rather keep Brock and the pick If that's the trade Jersey needs to throw in a 2nd rounder this year and I am ok with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johngould21 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Baratheon said: The misconception here is that the Canucks have EVER really rebuilt. Even the years where we drafted high it was almost accidental. Canucks quite frankly have a history of waiting too long and losing value on their players. How many times in history have we had a top two pick? 3? 4? It has worked out well every single time! When they play that silly game to decide which team picks where, it never seems to work for the Canucks. Third worst record in the NHL, but somehow the Rangers who I believe were 14th or 15th, end up with the first overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Ferlands_Head said: You don’t watch the games? He leads by example and is one of the few guys who plays with any emotion. Maybe watch some Canucks games before coming up with that ridiculous statement. I watch a lot of games actually. And what I see is a player at times who doesn't back check hard in OT if his offensive player doesn't work out. I see a player that multiple times has been told to "f off" by teammates on the bench. Emotion can be dangerous in a leadership environment, you need to be the calm in the storm for your troops. Lead with passion NOT emotion. But what do I know about leadership, I only did 20 plus years and deployed multiple times... so I guess my thoughts and experiences in leadership are how you say...rediculous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, johngould21 said: When they play that silly game to decide which team picks where, it never seems to work for the Canucks. Third worst record in the NHL, but somehow the Rangers who I believe were 14th or 15th, end up with the first overall. Cry foul all you want. We know the game is played in favour of elite NHL brass teams (not “elite” teams in terms of quality teams). Pittsburgh, New Jersey, Detroit, Edmonton, Tampa Bay, Colorado are all elite NHL brass teams. Teams the NHL heads really really like. Edited June 16, 2022 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Me_ said: Um…. They’re rebuilt. Only Horvat remains from the time Benning took over. Drafted we’re Hughes, Pettersson, Boeser, Demko, and a whole bunch of other ones. Miller for a 1st. That’s a rebuild. No. Again a misconception. You are referring to that "retooling on the fly" nonsense that they've been trying forever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, johngould21 said: When they play that silly game to decide which team picks where, it never seems to work for the Canucks. Third worst record in the NHL, but somehow the Rangers who I believe were 14th or 15th, end up with the first overall. Sure but if you just straight up trade for a top two pick then the lottery is not a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 hours ago, Alflives said: What do we do with Miller if he's not signed to an extension, and we are fighting for a playoff spot at the 2023 TDL, much like we were this past TDL? Do we play out the season (again) in hopes of making the playoffs with Miller, or do we let him walk for nothing July 1, 2023? That's the problem with keeping him here without a new contract. It's either sign him this summer of trade him. I don't think having him play without a contract is smart. Then I'm dumb so, maybe it's smart. Well.. only Management knows what their smartest choice would be... I was just saying purely from the angle of asset management. And yes, we definitely should shoot for making the playoffs with him since we are not officially in full rebuild... who knows, maybe he enjoys the process so much that he would wanna stick long term with us? At this point, why would Millsy wanna extend not knowing how aggressive we are in offseason trades and FA signings? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RakuRaku Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 22 hours ago, combover said: Ufas rarely live up to the overpayment they’ll receive if we’ve learned nothing from JB era it’s that. the best value guys are the ones still looking for work in august.on low risk 1 year contracts vanek was one of JBs best UFA Copp Deslauriers will be way over priced and we’d just end up with the same issues that plagued this poorly managed team over the last 8 seasons. Hope our management team can find those diamonds at good value with out all the hype of the high profile guys. Correct!!! Like I said long ago.... I can only recall Samuelsson being the most prolific decent $ FA signing in recent history.... 95% of the time when we overpaid for FA's... just turned out to be bust!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: Correct!!! Like I said long ago.... I can only recall Samuelsson being the most prolific decent $ FA signing in recent history.... 95% of the time when we overpaid for FA's... just turned out to be bust!! Come on now. We got elite goal scoring from E r i k s s o n. $1,000,000/goal. Now that’s monnneyheyhey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, JM_ said: I guess you have crystal balls. Do you really need them to see that 9mill for a 36 year old will have a negative impact on the cap? It wouldn’t be the first time a team lost a great player because of cap issues. It’s how we got Miller to begin with…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Baratheon said: No. Again a misconception. You are referring to that "retooling on the fly" nonsense that they've been trying forever. Gillis said we needed to rebuild and the owner fired him. Then in came LinBenning and did the whole retool/reset/turn-over the lineup while competing thing. It was an abysmal failure. So Linden said we needed to rebuild and he was forced out. Again our owner went with Benning. Again dismal failure. Now we have JR and his group, who (many fans hope) can do what LinBenningBrod tried to do and failed. Hopefully our owner accepts JR's opinion and if it comes to a full rebuild he supports that. Right now though, it sure looks like we will retool around Hughes, Petey and Demko. If it fails though, we should be doing like Chicago is right now and that is trading away guys for the best return possible over a five year deep dive (draft high) rebuild. Personally the only player I'd keep, if we do a deep dive rebuild, is Petey. He will be 27-30 when we are competing again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, RakuRaku said: Correct!!! Like I said long ago.... I can only recall Samuelsson being the most prolific decent $ FA signing in recent history.... 95% of the time when we overpaid for FA's... just turned out to be bust!! Vanek and Vrbata, although not franchise altering, delivered on their contracts at least. But yeah, it's definitely not a long list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Vanek and Vrbata, although not franchise altering, delivered on their contracts at least. But yeah, it's definitely not a long list. Vanek was great for what he was, Vrbata gave one good year and checked out. What about our former captain, #11 that was a great UFA signing Tanev was UFA signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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