BCNate Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 10 minutes ago, Fred65 said: I'll tempur my cheer leading on Bear. I didn't see him make any difference, but he might. I liked him when he was in Edmonton. The D as a whole in that game were putrid. OEL slow to the puck and bad reads. Still is a libility, I can't understand why Stillman has bumped Rathbone. Is Aman better than Lammiko, 50-50 at best. Bains and Johansson are stil years away if indeed they do come through. I've never seen them play so have no knowledge to judge tham by, As to Lekkerimaki he's not showing well and we only have media opinions. I'll certainly be better imformed come the WJC. I have hopes for Jurmo from all reports he's still improving so there's hope, The best summer signing may turn out to be Martin Cheerleading? Huh? We got an NHL defenseman for a 5th, that is fact, not cheerleading. Is he going to turn things around on his own, no, and nobody is expecting that. Odds say that he has already played more games in the NHL than the pick we gave up will. That is a win. Martin signed last year, not in the summer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fred65 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, BCNate said: Cheerleading? Huh? We got an NHL defenseman for a 5th, that is fact, not cheerleading. Is he going to turn things around on his own, no, and nobody is expecting that. Odds say that he has already played more games in the NHL than the pick we gave up will. That is a win. Martin signed last year, not in the summer. First off Martin signed a NHL contract Apr 8, 2022 . Every one is entitled to their opinion. I was at the game against NJ too often Bear was pushed around and made bad reads. I prefer to view players not by what I read but what my own eyes tell me. Bear hasn't played for some time, but as he was a healthy scratch this entire season, replaced by Chatfield, and the last play-offs. Brind'Amour is no ones fool. BUt there's hope with a few games under his belt he might look better, today I'd say Burroughs is playing a better game, ditto Stillman, he's a liability. Right now things are close to desperation we need to win, we're not or shuldn't be in the development of players at the NHL level. Just to compound it OEL is on the decline, his foor speed in regressing. Watch this, if there's a loose puck who get's there first, it wasn't OEL he was mainly second man to the puck, not good. Kerrermakki I'l wait if there some one thta is supposedky doing well it's Peddersson Mk2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: That's important, quickness. It's some thing is frightingly losing with OEL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Fred65 said: First off Martin signed a NHL contract Apr 8, 2022 . Every one is entitled to their opinion. I was at the game against NJ too often Bear was pushed around and made bad reads. I prefer to view players not by what I read but what my own eyes tell me. Bear hasn't played for some time, but as he was a healthy scratch this entire season, replaced by Chatfield, and the last play-offs. Brind'Amour is no ones fool. BUt there's hope with a few games under his belt he might look better, today I'd say Burroughs is playing a better game, ditto Stillman, he's a liability. Right now things are close to desperation we need to win, we're not or shuldn't be in the development of players at the NHL level. Just to compound it OEL is on the decline, his foor speed in regressing. Watch this, if there's a loose puck who get's there first, it wasn't OEL he was mainly second man to the puck, not good. Kerrermakki I'l wait if there some one thta is supposedky doing well it's Peddersson Mk2 Martin played 6 games for us last year, he was not a new signing. Bear was fine, first game in a long time, certainly didn't look out if place. Time will tell. NO comment on the rest, as I didn't comment on them to begin with. You are flat wrong about Johansson though, he has been excellent in the SHL, and will almost assuredly be on our roster out of camp next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vancan2233 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 3:07 PM, Fred65 said: First off Martin signed a NHL contract Apr 8, 2022 . Every one is entitled to their opinion. I was at the game against NJ too often Bear was pushed around and made bad reads. I prefer to view players not by what I read but what my own eyes tell me. Bear hasn't played for some time, but as he was a healthy scratch this entire season, replaced by Chatfield, and the last play-offs. Brind'Amour is no ones fool. BUt there's hope with a few games under his belt he might look better, today I'd say Burroughs is playing a better game, ditto Stillman, he's a liability. Right now things are close to desperation we need to win, we're not or shuldn't be in the development of players at the NHL level. Just to compound it OEL is on the decline, his foor speed in regressing. Watch this, if there's a loose puck who get's there first, it wasn't OEL he was mainly second man to the puck, not good. Kerrermakki I'l wait if there some one thta is supposedky doing well it's Peddersson Mk2 Bear was not replaced by Chatfield. He was pushed out of the line up, because of Burns and Pacioretty soon to be cap hit off of LTIR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Canuck #12 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, vancan2233 said: Bear was not replaced by Chatfield. He was pushed out of the line up, because of Burns and Pacioretty soon to be cap hit off of LTIR. .....not to mention his slow recovery from COVID, the rumour that Brindamour thought he still wasn't back in shape and Friedman's nugget that he asked for a trade last Summer. Edited November 5, 2022 by Captain Canuck #12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentSam Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Gee . Great insight in all of his reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 It’s players like this that the org. Needs to persuade to come closer to the big club and play if possible. Not necessarily to expedite there growth but to be sure they are getting the proper development. That being said,. Perhaps it is the Canucks development “systems” that are hindering the growth, and ability to push fringe players off the roster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 hours ago, SilentSam said: It’s players like this that the org. Needs to persuade to come closer to the big club and play if possible. Not necessarily to expedite there growth but to be sure they are getting the proper development. That being said,. Perhaps it is the Canucks development “systems” that are hindering the growth, and ability to push fringe players off the roster. Deffinitely the Latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 1:43 PM, SilentSam said: It’s players like this that the org. Needs to persuade to come closer to the big club and play if possible. Not necessarily to expedite there growth but to be sure they are getting the proper development. That being said,. Perhaps it is the Canucks development “systems” that are hindering the growth, and ability to push fringe players off the roster. I’ve always been jealous of organizations like the Red Wings and the Lightning that make mediocre players good. We are the opposite where we make ruin careers of fringe NHL players. I would argue we ruin the careers of good NHL players too. It’s embarrassing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 hours ago, suitup said: I’ve always been jealous of organizations like the Red Wings and the Lightning that make mediocre players good. We are the opposite where we make ruin careers of fringe NHL players. I would argue we ruin the careers of good NHL players too. It’s embarrassing. This is all in the name of be mediocre, now! That passes straight down from ownership, that has the patience of a fruit fly. Our GMs are put in the position of immediate gratification. That leads to the trading of draft slots, the non-development of players, the trading of promising prospects, and giving up on them because they can’t help us NOW. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 It's good to see he's having a solid, productive season thus far We desperately need him to become a top 4 guy someday as we've precious little in the way of RD prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 20 minutes ago, Coconuts said: It's good to see he's having a solid, productive season thus far We desperately need him to become a top 4 guy someday as we've precious little in the way of RD prospects Yeah but I'm pretty sure someone is looking to move a 25 yo 13th fwd and we could move this guy for him! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Yeah but I'm pretty sure someone is looking to move a 25 yo 13th fwd and we could move this guy for him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204CanucksFan Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Jeeze. Came in here to ponder the question of whether people think King Loui Eriksson signing with Frölunda HC (Johansson's SHL team) is a good thing, bad thing or meh for us? But after seeing the state of this board for the last 24 hours: Edited November 10, 2022 by 204CanucksFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 hours ago, 204CanucksFan said: Jeeze. Came in here to ponder the question of whether people think King Loui Eriksson signing with Frölunda HC (Johansson's SHL team) is a good thing, bad thing or meh for us? But after seeing the state of this board for the last 24 hours: I don't think it'll really matter tbh Might have some things to say about Vancouver but I reckon it'll be a fair take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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