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Just now, Shayster007 said:

No one in their right mind would argue letting Johnny Hockey walk to free agency and losing him for nothing was good asset management. That was the flames making the best of a bad situation.

no one in their right mind qualifies Brock at $7.25M

no one in their right mind give Brock a contract that QOs at $7.25

no on in their right mind give Brock a $6.65M contract for 3 years, or is that what 23 goal scorers are making now a days?

 

would you say Alvin made the best of a bad situation?

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2 hours ago, JM_ said:

I do think part of loading up where they could on the F group was to have the option to trade from a position of strength. We can now move one of Boeser or Garland and be just fine. 

 

This was never going to be solved in one off season. 

 

We also could have moved on from Miller with the same logic FYI.

 

And like I said, all those remaining forwards, plus a couple of Hague/Marino/Chychrun....I'm not sure you can say that's actually a "step back".

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3 hours ago, eeeeergh said:

They can snap out of it, but with the holes on the blue line, we are at best a fringe playoff team. I'm hoping this losing streak triggers PA/JR to take some action instead of trying to roll with the blue line the way it is.

 

Hughes for 26 minutes a night is just not going to work. 

Yeah, I have no clue why they are burning a year or two off here and doing nothing. When all is said and done we'll be lucky to have one year before JT is just an anchor. 

 

I would way rather watch a young team growing into something than this mediocre group wasting time. 

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57 minutes ago, lmm said:

no one in their right mind qualifies Brock at $7.25M

no one in their right mind give Brock a contract that QOs at $7.25

no on in their right mind give Brock a $6.65M contract for 3 years, or is that what 23 goal scorers are making now a days?

 

would you say Alvin made the best of a bad situation?

I completely disagree that no one gives Brock a 6.65 million dollar contract. Infact I think most GM's in the league sign that same deal in the summer if they aren't planning on trading the player. He has 260 points in 329 career games, that contract is by no means unreasonable, at all. Thompson got a higher AAV with a less pp. There is nothing wrong with Brocks contract, in the same summer.

 

No, I'm not saying Alvin made the best of a bed situations. He played Brock market value for the player.

 

I'm saying that no one in their right mind would possibly think letting JG walk would be concidered good asset management. You are literally the first person I have seen make that argument.

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7 minutes ago, Alflives said:

When Demko starts playing like the top five goalie he is, then we will start a win streak.  He’s our most important player and must play better. 

Demko needs to be better but fans also needs the have realistic expectations. He carried this team on his back and played Vezina caliber hockey most nights, but when he wasn't superman we'd often lose. Now that he's not looking like superman the rest of the team needs to step up too.

 

Point is, if your team is reliant on your goaltender playing like a Vezina candidate night in and night out just to have a chance at winning your team isn't very good. Demko and Martin will let in ugly goals, have tough games, or games where they're average but not spectacular, the rest of the team should be able to bail them out too. 

 

If anything Demko looking more human highlights the roster deficiencies and play of the guys in front of him. 

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40 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:

I completely disagree that no one gives Brock a 6.65 million dollar contract. Infact I think most GM's in the league sign that same deal in the summer if they aren't planning on trading the player. He has 260 points in 329 career games, that contract is by no means unreasonable, at all. Thompson got a higher AAV with a less pp. There is nothing wrong with Brocks contract, in the same summer.

 

No, I'm not saying Alvin made the best of a bed situations. He played Brock market value for the player.

 

I'm saying that no one in their right mind would possibly think letting JG walk would be concidered good asset management. You are literally the first person I have seen make that argument.

If the Boeser contract was good 4 months ago, it should still be good now, which means he should be tradable without a sweetener or retention- we'll see

Some think the Ferland deal was also reasonable, I don't

What do you think about Colorado and their asset management concerning Nazim Kadri?

Calgary thought they were in league with Colo for a cup run, that makes a difference to how you deal with impending FAs.

Being on an improbable run to squeak into the playoffs is not the same as being a Cup contender

Horvat is in the same situation as Gudreau, we will see what Alvin comes up with, A trade, a seasonable contract, ( I'm not counting in that) or an unreasonable contract or maybe he walks

For the record, I am glad we didn't sign Kadri to that deal

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8 minutes ago, lmm said:

If the Boeser contract was good 4 months ago, it should still be good now, which means he should be tradable without a sweetener or retention- we'll see

Some think the Ferland deal was also reasonable, I don't

What do you think about Colorado and their asset management concerning Nazim Kadri?

Calgary thought they were in league with Colo for a cup run, that makes a difference to how you deal with impending FAs.

Being on an improbable run to squeak into the playoffs is not the same as being a Cup contender

Horvat is in the same situation as Gudreau, we will see what Alvin comes up with, A trade, a seasonable contract, ( I'm not counting in that) or an unreasonable contract

For the record, I am glad we didn't sign Kadri to that deal

A sweetner? Well... Duh. Boeser still has value. Guy missed preseason, and is clearly a step behind and still isn't playing nearly as bad as other players in our top 6.

 

Colorado did fine, they won a cup with Kadri. You don't need to worry about asset management when your franchise has an embarrassment of riches even after winning the cup. I think the Kadri deal will age poorly, same way I feel about the JT Miller contract.

 

If for whatever reason Horvat walks to FA in the summer, and we don't trade him before he does that it would be a monumental failure and should result in the entire brass looking for a new job.

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43 minutes ago, Shayster007 said:

I completely disagree that no one gives Brock a 6.65 million dollar contract. Infact I think most GM's in the league sign that same deal in the summer if they aren't planning on trading the player. He has 260 points in 329 career games, that contract is by no means unreasonable, at all. Thompson got a higher AAV with a less pp. There is nothing wrong with Brocks contract, in the same summer.

 

No, I'm not saying Alvin made the best of a bed situations. He played Brock market value for the player.

 

I'm saying that no one in their right mind would possibly think letting JG walk would be concidered good asset management. You are literally the first person I have seen make that argument.

Because that argument can be made now in hindsight, that’s why.

 

Treliving could have easily been handcuffed if Tkachuk pulled the same act as JG. Luckily the timing was perfect for CGY/FLA to link up.

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