Gurn Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: I just don't get why some people get riled up when people choose to look for the upside of a move. But I guess some people get more energy from always looking for the downside. It is what it is. Thing is a lot of 'upsiders' spend a great deal of time calling out the 'haters' To me most 'haters' seem to say their piece, but don't carp on the pom pom folk- at least not as much as the other way around. But do go on and keep trying to install your version of what a fan should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, gurn said: In your view, being a fan means being a pom pom waver? Well you don't have to carry a pitchfork to be a fan. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) I think this is a fine return for a 5th. We really needed another capable body on D, and this provides it. And as a secondary upside, we now have 3 guys who will be called "Pederson" by the announcers. I just can't wait for: "Elias Pettersson to Pederson, to Pettersson and back to Pettersson and he{Pettersson} scores!!!!" Edited October 28, 2022 by kloubek 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted October 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Whoa I read that wrong initially 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 26 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: The problem with Bear as a 3rd RHD is he needs to be qualified at $2.2 million in the summer to retain him. Are we going to be paying a 3rd pairing Dman $2.2 million? That is not true, and not how QO's work. Remember Boeser's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EmilyM Posted October 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, JM_ said: if you're not a fan, why would you be here? You can be a Canucks fan and simultaneously criticize management decisions. Because being a Canucks fan doesn’t mean blindly supporting every decision the team makes. As a Canuck fan, our loyalty should lie in the institution of the Canucks, not to any particular member of the establishment. As we were here before any of the current owners/managers/coaches/players were and we, the collective Canuck fanbase, will be here long after Aquilini/JR/PA/players have all left. You can criticize/analyze decisions made by the team while still being a diehard Canuck fans. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, -DLC- said: Try to add something of substance. Or not. Spot on! I have been overly blunt / crossed lines at times and it’s something I don’t like to do…honestly regret it mostly, but the toxicity / negativity from some is overwhelming and makes it very hard to enjoy this forum! I love the Canucks / hockey and sometimes it’s an escape from a lot of horrible stuff me & my family have dealt with the last few years…I come on here to read & maybe discuss the Canucks / hockey and it’s consumed with a handful of peoples constant / consistent negativity / toxic garbage! It sucks, because it makes me & I would assume others struggle to enjoy it. Edited October 28, 2022 by IRR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniwaki Canuck Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Nice move: can't go wrong at that price, even if it doesn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Just now, gurn said: Thing is a lot of 'upsiders' spend a great deal of time calling out the 'haters' To me most 'haters' seem to say their piece, but don't carp on the pom pom folk- at least not as much as the other way around. But do go on and keep trying to install your version of what a fan should be. I'm not installing anything, I don't care what you do. But yes CDC does have a negativity issue, people are still whinging about Gillis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 33 minutes ago, smithers joe said: i'm still hoping, we trade a core piece out for a top 4 rd d-man and a rd prospect with good upside. and a 2nd round pick. I suspect that most of these moves are laying the groundwork for a bigger move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV. Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Just now, HorvatToBaertschi said: You are. Management does something to help our team with all its injuries and you complain. Like clockwork. Some of us wanted Ethan Bear before our injuries. Some of us are glad to see that our franchise still has a pulse, somewhere in management. Some of us think Bear can actually be an asset. It's not protecting the team mindlessly. We have different ways we see our favorite franchise get out of this rut. Mine for example, sees Bear as a good move, especially for something so insignificant as a 5th round pick. Please tell me the last 5th round pick that made an impact on our team, and not the spreading covid to everyone kind of impact that AG had. Sutter thanks him still probably, Your words, not mine. I just laughed at this move and pointed out the obvious here (he's a waiver-tier player, retention or not). That's the extent to what I said. Some don't take kindly to hearing the truth, I'd wager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Devron said: Whoa I read that wrong initially Same here!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, EmilyM said: You can be a Canucks fan and simultaneously criticize management decisions. Because being a Canucks fan doesn’t mean blindly supporting every decision the team makes. As a Canuck fan, our loyalty should lie in the institution of the Canucks, not to any particular member of the establishment. As we were here before any of the current owners/managers/coaches/players were and we, the collective Canuck fanbase, will be here long after Aquilini/JR/PA/players have all left. You can criticize/analyze decisions made by the team while still being a diehard Canuck fans. sure thats true, but we already have people tearing down a player who hasn't even played 1 minute for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Some people here do... Yeah okay!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, JM_ said: I just don't get why some people get riled up when people choose to look for the upside of a move. But I guess some people get more energy from always looking for the downside. It is what it is. See, there's two issues with this. How one looks at things isn't black and white, nor is how things are expressed. I'm quite vocal about wanting to rebuild and I was critical of last nights game, but I was also complimentary of Pettersson and said he'd probably break 80 points this season. I also recognized that Demko looked better against Carolina despite the struggles of the team in front of him against what was a much better team. It's also not just one side getting riled up and going after the other, it's both sides. Some folks make jabs at pom pom waves, some write off anyone who's consistently critical as toxic or make them out to somehow not be a fan, or to somehow be less of one. We've both been here long enough to know there's two sides to that coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted October 28, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, gurn said: Thing is a lot of 'upsiders' spend a great deal of time calling out the 'haters' To me most 'haters' seem to say their piece, but don't carp on the pom pom folk- at least not as much as the other way around. But do go on and keep trying to install your version of what a fan should be. A fan should be one that supports the team. If you have a different idea of the team, maybe it's just not the team for you. If it's creating such disappointment, misery and you never find anything positive. that's on you as much as the team. You have choices. A win brings out the worst in some...that's just a huge red flag. It's really about what we take out of this life and it's draining and tiring to hear the constant drone of complaints. Even when we win. Every time there's a move. I go back to my original....why bother? To ruin everyone else's experience? To prove you know (more than the qualified professionals in place)? As much as we wave our pom poms...we're smiling. Happy. Don't be hatin' about that. Anyhow...it's sunny and I'm going for a bike ride. I suggest some here do the same because this going around in circles is dizzying. We are all Canucks but no one's forcing anyone to be subjected to the misery. So suck it up. 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, JM_ said: sure thats part of it. Why is that a problem for you? Not at all, go wave the pom poms as much as you want; just cut back on saying you think others are wrong for how they 'fan'. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Coconuts said: To the date Rutherford was hired I suppose? You can't blame him for what happened before he was here, but being frustrated with what's happened since this management group took over is reasonable. Up until now I didn't have a real issue with how they utilized picks. We got one for Hamonic, we moved it for a guy with term in Dermott. Now we've moved a 2nd and a 5th in under a month, and it's now that my stance on how they've utilized picks has pivoted. Does that not seem reasonable? Could have gotten one of those numerous times off waivers since the beginning of the season, I've touched on that. Bear has 190 NHL games to his name, could have grabbed Ben Harpur who's got 156 off waivers for free. One could argue you take the NHL quality player off waivers for no cost the same way one could argue taking one back for a late round pick. I haven't once said I'm mad, don't know where you're getting that from. Frustrated? Disappointed? Sure. I haven't mentioned tanking in this thread, most of my ire has been towards moving picks out and that's historically pretty on brand for me. You know where I stand on the state of this club but you're also reaching a bit. I guess Harpur is a true depth defenceman at this point in his career, where i guess management see's more potential in Bear. I mean obviously they could have picked Harpur but chose to pick the better player in Bear in their minds. Management is making it very clear they are trying everything they can to improve the team without breaking the bank. Im pretty sure they had to get rid of Dickinson for cap implications otherwise we would have had to have a 21 man roster with dickinson waived anyways. they had to make a move because they didnt want to put Myers, Mikheyev or Dermott on LTIR. it also worked out that we got a perfect LTIR calculation. sometimes your hand is forced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, -DLC- said: Well you don't have to carry a pitchfork to be a fan. So you haven’t been to the Houston BC rink to follow your team ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCan2023 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, kloubek said: I think this is a fine return for a 5th. We really needed another capable body on D, and this provides it. And as a secondary upside, we now have 3 guys who will be called "Pederson" by the announcers. I just can't wait for: "Elias Pettersson to Pederson, to Pettersson and back to Pettersson and he{Pettersson} scores!!!!" Add Pearson to the mix and Shorty will be having fits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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