Goal:thecup Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, JM_ said: its Schrödinger's give-away I was already sufficiently confused thank you. Looks like Studnicky and Bear are both going to get in the lineup against NJ. It has been nice to get a couple days to enjoy the extended point streak and first victories of the season. CDC was getting downright scummy before that last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Goal:thecup said: I was already sufficiently confused thank you. Looks like Studnicky and Bear are both going to get in the lineup against NJ. It has been nice to get a couple days to enjoy the extended point streak and first victories of the season. CDC was getting downright scummy before that last game. what I noticed in the stats is Bear seemed to improve a lot on the amount of giveaways he was responsible for. So hopefully that trend continues. yeah it was getting pretty nasty around here. Edited October 31, 2022 by JM_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 17 hours ago, vancan2233 said: Burroughs is ok, but Bear is and will always be the better player. Bear was doing very good in Edmonton until,racism showed it's ugly face. Chatfield is not flourishing he has played solid in 8 games. Forsling and Bear could be compared, both are good. Bear started off good and drop off for good reasons and Forsling slowly improved into a solid player. Racism? Sorry vancan but what is that all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, spook007 said: Racism? Sorry vancan but what is that all about? Watch the video posted in this topic called "How Indigenous NHL Defenseman Ethan Bear Turned Racism & Hate Into A Chance to Teach". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, spook007 said: Racism? Sorry vancan but what is that all about? EDMONTON, Alberta – Edmonton Oilers general manager Ken Holland said any racist comments directed to First Nation defenseman Ethan Bear are “totally unacceptable” and “disgusting.” Holland said he was told about the issue by teams staff just before his season-ending address to the media Wednesday. Bear’s girlfriend, Lenasia Ned, posted on social media that the defenseman “received numerous racist messages and comments” in the aftermath of the Oilers’ four-game series loss to Winnipeg in the first round of the NHL playoffs. The Jets tied Game 4 after a turnover by Bear, with Winnipeg eventually winning in triple overtime. The 23-year-old Bear is from the Ochapowace Nation in southern Saskatchewan. “He’s a tremendous role model for all young athletes, especially in the Indigenous community,” Holland said. “He gives time to the community. He’s popular in the locker room. … I feel sick for him, I feel disappointed for him that he would he would get this kind of abuse. I think we’ve made strides, but there’s a long way to go to create a world where we’re where everybody feels safe and they don’t get this kind of racism and abuse.” Holland said he planned to reach out to Bear. “I’m 65 years old. I don’t live in that social media world,” he said. “I want to talk to our PR people . . . and see what we can do as an organization to try to make sure this doesn’t happen in the future.” Bear, with Ned at his side, addressed the situation with a statement in a two-minute video posted to social media later Wednesday. “I know this doesn’t represent all Oilers fans or hockey fans, and I greatly appreciate your support and love during this time. I’m here to stand up to this behavior, to these comments. I’m proud of where I come from, I’m proud to be from Ochapowace first nation. I’m not just doing this for myself, I’m doing this for all people of color, I’m doing this for the next generation, to help make change to love one another, to support one another, to be kind to each other. There’s no place for racism in our communities, in sports or our workplace. “I call on all of us to make change and end racism.” The Oilers followed Bear with their own statement, saying: “The Edmonton Oilers Hockey Club is equally disappointed in these disgusting, cowardly and racist remarks. While we have witnessed progress in the area of equality and inclusion, this reprehensible behavior demonstrates we still have significant work to do. We call upon everyone in Oil Country to stand up to racism, call out hatred and do their part in making our community one of acceptance, inclusion and respect.” The NHL also released a statement on Twitter later Wednesday. “Ethan Bear represents both our game and his Indigenous heritage with dignity and pride,” the NHL said. “He, and all people from Indigenous backgrounds, deserve to feel empowered and respected on and off the ice. We stand with Ethan and his family in denouncing hate.” The Confederacy of Treaty Six First Nations said in a statement it was appalled by the racist comments. “We all have a responsibility to speak out against racism in any circumstance, and to ask those involved to stop,” Grand Chief Vernon Watchmaker said. “We are mindful that racism is hurtful and this has gone on for far too long.” 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 16 hours ago, Fred65 said: The Canes have $8mill plus Cap space Yes ,which they need to activate Max Pacioretty off of LTIR, which is a big reason they let Bear go for so little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, vancan2233 said: Watch the video posted in this topic called "How Indigenous NHL Defenseman Ethan Bear Turned Racism & Hate Into A Chance to Teach". Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, vancan2233 said: Watch the video posted in this topic called "How Indigenous NHL Defenseman Ethan Bear Turned Racism & Hate Into A Chance to Teach". Thanks this is really poor showing by Oilers fans. Show your displeasure if needed boo etc., but this is just pathetic loser behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancan2233 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, spook007 said: Thanks this is really poor showing by Oilers fans. Show your displeasure if needed boo etc., but this is just pathetic loser behavior. Very pathetic, especially when the Oilers were down 3 games to begin with. Plus the kid seem like a super person with a great family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, vancan2233 said: Yes ,which they need to activate Max Pacioretty off of LTIR, which is a big reason they let Bear go for so little. OK that explains it, thks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, vancan2233 said: Very pathetic, especially when the Oilers were down 3 games to begin with. Plus the kid seem like a super person with a great family. Being 3 games down and hanging out a young player is poor in any circumstances, but to use racism is just lame and extremely pathetic. There was a clip of McDs reaction to Baers pizza... it did not scream leader or captain, but dumbass and would get all the hill billies going. Will be interesting to see him in Vancouver. Whether he succeeds remains to be seen, but there should be no acceptance of racism in our society regardless of ability or success. Hope the offenders got done. A-holes... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taphouse Canuck Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, spook007 said: Being 3 games down and hanging out a young player is poor in any circumstances, but to use racism is just lame and extremely pathetic. There was a clip of McDs reaction to Baers pizza... it did not scream leader or captain, but dumbass and would get all the hill billies going. Will be interesting to see him in Vancouver. Whether he succeeds remains to be seen, but there should be no acceptance of racism in our society regardless of ability or success. Hope the offenders got done. A-holes... Agree with everything. I watched quite a lot of that series and there is no way you could pin the loss on Bear. I thought he looked pretty solid in all the games I saw him play. It's a team game and one guy doesn't make or break that. If anything fans anger would be better directed at the "superstars" who failed to justify their multi-million dollar price tags. I wish him well here and I hope that Nucks fans have more class than to disrespect him because of his background. Instead he should be applauded for getting to where he has in the NHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Well after watching Bear feed McD and Drais enough times and scoring some himself, and grit. As long as he doesn't hesitate much with the puck to get it out quickly then I don't see what giving him a chance to shine again.. That's our main D problem, hesitant first passes that allow opposing forwards to get in and force turnovers or cause penalties which cost us at least 4 of our games so far. D positioning and forwards back for accepting easy short passes instead of being too far away from the D to support looking to get free for long stretch passes. In my mind it's still a matter of killing old habits brought in by Green that are still with us to some degree. That's why playing a simpler game of short tick tack toe passes up the ice that Bruce brought in instead of stretch passes, that brought instant success but it seems to me that old way of playing still needs to get out of our heads. I think once our confidence is fully back, that will fade more but we seem to be supporting our D better but it still needs work. Bear wasn't here for that so seems like a good situation in that way.. Hope it works out is all I can say about anything these days involving the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Taphouse Canuck said: Agree with everything. I watched quite a lot of that series and there is no way you could pin the loss on Bear. I thought he looked pretty solid in all the games I saw him play. It's a team game and one guy doesn't make or break that. If anything fans anger would be better directed at the "superstars" who failed to justify their multi-million dollar price tags. I wish him well here and I hope that Nucks fans have more class than to disrespect him because of his background. Instead he should be applauded for getting to where he has in the NHL. Cheers Taphouse. I'll go a little further, even if it had been his fault and he was to be crucified, he should never be subjected to racism... But yes the 'Superstars' who get the big bucks should also have the broadest shoulders and take responsibility... When I saw the clip with McD and his facial expression, I just couldn't believe it... He should have been up there, tapping the young loon on the shoulder, and give him support. Can't imagine Linden or Sedin just sitting looking skywards, if a young boy makes a mistake, even if it cost them the series. Its a team game, and he was hardly at fault for all the other goals scored against them. And I am sure Nucks fans have much more class than that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 This is what leaders do. Lockett ended up scoring a touchdown later on. Respect to Pete Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, stanleysteamersmyl said: This is what leaders do. Lockett ended up scoring a touchdown later on. Respect to Pete Carroll. Nice, but what does this have to do with Bear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 4 hours ago, -AJ- said: Nice, but what does this have to do with Bear? Identifying players by race, creed or sexual orientation means little to me. Players who actually make the NHL all face challenges of some sort to make it. Saying that I am not suggesting Bear's journey is any less. Many year's ago the Laffers made George Armstrong their captain. Did they do that because he was native? I don't think so. He was a natural leader. Trottier no dif. I wish Bear well but I will watch him as a hockey player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHTyrany Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Ethan has a similar speaking style to Bo. I hope he makes a great fit with the Nucks family and excels. Good luck and welcome to the Nucks! We need your true potential as our back end is similar to what you saw in Edmonton. GCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 So excited for this debut tonight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Hopefully it's only a matter of time till there is Hugfy Bear fever in Van. Hughes-Bear sounds like a good pairing on paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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