chon derry Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, lmm said: the other thing Sid says, that kind of flies under the radar is, "If I were Petey or HUghes, I'd say get me out of here" Some folks think we have til the end of their contracts to figure things out, it might be too late already With JRs lack of exp. in the larger market (van) comparative to his prior teams media. He hasn’t made it easy on himself. And Patrick Allvin wtf has he been? If he can handle himself any better than jr ,nows the time to step up. Only to keep Rutherford from disgracing the org even further Edited January 18, 2023 by chon derry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 9:56 AM, Curmudgeon said: You mean the Seattle that is 2 points back of Vegas for the Pacific Division lead, and with two games in hand? That Seattle? You mean after they got rid of her and made some trades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Dazzle said: Guenther wouldn't have helped this team at all. Maybe we will see in 2-3 years when Guenther is a everyday NHL sniper. He’s learning the NHL pace right now. Canucks need one of those when we unload Boeser. And seeing how we aren’t close of being a contender, he absolutely would be a piece that would help this team. Sure will have a better future then a washed up OEL and a middle 6 forward in Garland. Time will prove this. Otherwise you can quote me and I’ll admit when I’m wrong. But I disagree. He would help this team score goals for us as he did for team Canada at the WJHC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaninMex Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 11:44 AM, Ghostsof1915 said: Doesn't matter who the GM is. Benning has painted us into a corner. Brock and JT contracts haven't helped anything. The other signings have been ok. It's almost like Benning is still running the show. Which of the Bolded parts painted the team into a corner? Look at the trade offers that we heard about for JT and Rathbone and tell me where the team would be in terms of cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, FaninMex said: Which of the Bolded parts painted the team into a corner? Look at the trade offers that we heard about for JT and Rathbone and tell me where the team would be in terms of cap. Signing players like Myers, OEL, etc. Overpaying and underperforming is not helping the team. Yeah it would have hurt to hold onto Loui and company. But after one season a lot of cap would have been freed up. Pretty sure if Benning knew Jake and Gaudette would flame out and self destruct, he would have traded them when their value was high, and kept at least Tanev or Toffoli. Yeah there's a lot of hindsight is 20/20. But the team is in a jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToTellTheTruth Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Fire them? Getting there Edited January 18, 2023 by ToTellTheTruth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, chon derry said: With JRs lack of exp. in the larger market (van) comparative to his prior teams media. He hasn’t made it easy on himself. And Patrick Allvin wtf has he been? If he can handle himself any better than jr nows the time to step up. Only to keep Rutherford from further disgracing the org further here is the thing about Pittsburgh all of Sid, Gino and Letang were signed by Shero and/or Hextall none were signed by Rutherford I do believe letting Fleury go was JR's big move in Pittsburgh So when JR says the core does not need to be moved, he is just hoping that he can get away with the same inaction that won him 2 cups in Pitt I love Petey, but if I had the choice, I'd take Sid over Petey, Gino over Bo, Letang over Hughes and Fleury over Demko and JR is not responsible for any of them that makes JT Miller and Brock Boeser Jim's big catches. I'm sure he added some good players to Pittsburgh, but not the core Jim and Patrick should be fired by the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 23 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Lol blaming Cammi for year one in Seattle is ridiculous, very clear they actually had a plan and their success this season is proving that. They didn’t just suddenly improve cause Cammi left. Cammi was the last hire, after Bruce, JR, Clancey, Dorrie, Castongauy then Granato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, lmm said: Cammi was the last hire, after Bruce, JR, Clancey, Dorrie, Castongauy then Granato I was talking about Seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, FaninMex said: You mean after they got rid of her and made some trades Sure if they kept her on board they'd be awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, lmm said: Cammi was the last hire, after Bruce, JR, Clancey, Dorrie, Castongauy then Granato On a side note, I miss Ray's hits on sports talk radio here. I can only surmise that his absence is because he doesn't want to inadvertently blurt out a spontaneous, but truthful, opinion on Canucks management, and have to sleep on the couch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, lmm said: here is the thing about Pittsburgh all of Sid, Gino and Letang were signed by Shero and/or Hextall none were signed by Rutherford I do believe letting Fleury go was JR's big move in Pittsburgh So when JR says the core does not need to be moved, he is just hoping that he can get away with the same inaction that won him 2 cups in Pitt I love Petey, but if I had the choice, I'd take Sid over Petey, Gino over Bo, Letang over Hughes and Fleury over Demko and JR is not responsible for any of them that makes JT Miller and Brock Boeser Jim's big catches. I'm sure he added some good players to Pittsburgh, but not the core Jim and Patrick should be fired by the weekend He added Gudbranson to the Penguins..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: I was talking about Seattle oops , was replying to the post you quoted I was agreeing with you Daz does bring up an interesting point about why she left so soon, though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, lmm said: oops , was replying to the post you quoted I was agreeing with you Daz does bring up an interesting point about why she left so soon, though She lives in Vcr as does her husband and family. This was a chnace that would never come around a gain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Fred65 said: She lives in Vcr as does her husband and family. This was a chnace that would never come around a gain so, she asked out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 hours ago, EP Phone Home said: Maybe we will see in 2-3 years when Guenther is a everyday NHL sniper. He’s learning the NHL pace right now. Canucks need one of those when we unload Boeser. And seeing how we aren’t close of being a contender, he absolutely would be a piece that would help this team. Sure will have a better future then a washed up OEL and a middle 6 forward in Garland. Time will prove this. Otherwise you can quote me and I’ll admit when I’m wrong. But I disagree. He would help this team score goals for us as he did for team Canada at the WJHC. Goal scoring is not our issue. It's our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, DSVII said: He would, by virtue of costing $13 mil less for the next few years and bumping up the prospect pool significantly. We could have kept both Bo and Kuz with this money. The fact you're even trying to sweep the OEL trade under the rug and saying Miller was the franchise crippling move speaks to the bias man. Let's not forget the $13 million dollar D-pairing that is currently playing replacement level hockey right now. You can't just write off the last 8 years of mistakes and pin the pent up fanbase frustration on JR to keep the shine on Benning. Just a few months ago you were propping up the fact that with JR and PA choosing to keep the team together, it was validation that Benning built a good roster. No matter many times you try to pin this on JR and Gillis and no matter how many times to you repeat this, the fact remains Benning is going to be a managerial case study of what not to do in the salary cap era for decades to come. Using your logic, the lack of young players under Gillis should've given the Canucks options so that they didn't have to sign expensive UFAs or make costly trades. We missed a ton of depth because of Gillis. Missing 33 out of 37 picks is inexcusable. It's funny how your logic doesn't work that way though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sell.the.team Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 These clowns gotta go along with Aquaman. We need more Sell the Team chants. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, The.Burrowers said: These clowns gotta go along with Aquaman. We need more Sell the Team chants. I was shocked to see Linden making an appearance tonight. Such a first class guy and how Aqua hired and fired him was just so wrong. Linden had a plan and Aqua said f**k that I want to make the playoffs. The rest is history… that keeps repeating again and again and again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, FaninMex said: You mean after they got rid of her and made some trades No, before the trades when she was in on scouting the drafted guys. As I mentioned, six of the Seattle seven d-men were original draft picks. Somebody had to be part of the scouting crew that identified those guys. And they didn't actually get rid of her, she was hired away based on the work she had already done in helping build the Kraken. The bigger issue is why do you want to diminish Cammi Granato's ability? Threatened by competent females in a field you don't think they should be in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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