DrJockitch Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Don’t think Heiskanen is getting the credit he deserves on all these lists. Love Q but some of the deals thrown around I would consider. They are huge but can also be magic beans. Deal would need to be amazing to consider Q is special. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Don’t think Heiskanen is getting the credit he deserves on all these lists. Love Q but some of the deals thrown around I would consider. They are huge but can also be magic beans. Deal would need to be amazing to consider Q is special. I'd probably put MH right there with Hughes, I agree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, stawns said: Makar Hedman Josi Fox Carlson Dahlin Hughes/McAvoy You forgot Hampus Lindholm. Best +/- in the NHL along with 33 points. Hugely underrated. Edited February 8, 2023 by Elias Pettersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckFan1123 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Obviously it’s pure speculation but I swear if we even consider trading Hughes then every single person in management needs to go asap. Hughes is a special talent and unlike any dman we’ve ever had. He has the potential to be one of the best dman for the next decade plus. Petey and Hughes should be untouchable and Demko and Kuzmenko should be close to untouchable unless the offer is amazing. Management needs to not be stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: You forgot Hampus Lindholm. Best +/- in the NHL along with 33 points. Hugely underrated. I don't disagree there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 There's a 50/50 chance that Mercer, Nemec, and their 1st round pick amount to the equivalent of a 3rd line winger, a bottom pairing d-man, and an NHL tweener drafted 25th overall. I know that people's immediate instinct is to look at the absolute maximum upside of prospects/picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: There's a 50/50 chance that Mercer, Nemec, and their 1st round pick amount to the equivalent of a 3rd line winger, a bottom pairing d-man, and an NHL tweener drafted 25th overall. I know that people's immediate instinct is to look at the absolute maximum upside of prospects/picks. I agree. You don't trade a top 2 Dman for potential. What if those players don't pan out? Then you traded the team's best ever Dman for scraps. Similar to the Neely trade. It could backfire huge. Same as Pittsburgh trading Naslund for some toughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: You forgot Hampus Lindholm. Best +/- in the NHL along with 33 points. Hugely underrated. Also on a top NHL team, that helps BIG time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) Hughes, our 23 year old defensemen that’s approaching a PPG? that was just made a an alternate Captain? I like Mercer, but their first will be late, and Nemec hasn’t proven anything in the NHL. They’re going to need to add significantly to that offer IMHO. Edited February 8, 2023 by Kenny Powers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Sedin Brothers said: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Boeser-Trade-coming-in-days-NJ-and-Q-Hughes-e3-Tues-Buzz/1/120545 This is more for the discussion than the source. As a big time Devils fan (who appreciates the Sedin), I'd be willing to give Nemec, Mercer and a first. I think that's fair for both sides. thoughts? My thought? Eklund is a f**kin moron. You can bank on that. E5! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Neutral said: Also on a top NHL team, that helps BIG time! Makar, Hedman, McAvoy and Fox also all play on a top NHL team. The only one who doesn't is Quinn Hughes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: Don’t think Heiskanen is getting the credit he deserves on all these lists. Love Q but some of the deals thrown around I would consider. They are huge but can also be magic beans. Deal would need to be amazing to consider Q is special. Yeah. I’m open to moving absolutely anyone but Quinn isn’t a player you take a fair deal for, you’d have to overpay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: There's a 50/50 chance that Mercer, Nemec, and their 1st round pick amount to the equivalent of a 3rd line winger, a bottom pairing d-man, and an NHL tweener drafted 25th overall. I know that people's immediate instinct is to look at the absolute maximum upside of prospects/picks. Most of the time I'd agree with you, except Mercer I'd already say is much better than your description and is over .5ppg player at his young age while Nemec is undoubtedly better than a bottom pairing dman already but NJ is simply taking their time with him as they have no reason to rush his development by which most reports indicate is going just fine. If in fact there's any credibility to this whatsoever, which seems unlikely, it would need some serious consideration by our management. It has the potential to be a franchise altering trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Hughes, our 23 year old defensemen that’s approaching a PPG? that was just made a an alternate Captain? I like Mercer, but their first will be late, and Nemec hasn’t proven anything in the NHL. They’re going to need to add significantly to that offer IMHO. They don't have the assets to add. It's impossible to get full value back for Quinn unless another similar play comes back in return. If you do this type of a trade you risk trading for guys who may not even pan out and draft picks who may never play in the NHL. I'd rather keep our 23 year old Dman and build around him and Petey. If things don't work out, you can always trade him in 2-3 years when he's in his full blown prime... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Things are pretty safe when you live in your parents basement. Especially when their corpses are in the living room. Edited February 8, 2023 by PhillipBlunt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Things are pretty safe when you live in your parents basement. I'm locked in my parents attic. . . . Alf come get me please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 20 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I agree. You don't trade a top 2 Dman for potential. What if those players don't pan out? Then you traded the team's best ever Dman for scraps. Similar to the Neely trade. It could backfire huge. Same as Pittsburgh trading Naslund for some toughness. For me, you'd absolutely have to have mercer coming back............to start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, stawns said: For me, you'd absolutely have to have mercer coming back............to start Mercer is a 3rd line winger, we have lots of those types of players. He takes very few draws and is not very good at them, so he is not a 3C. Raty is a better prospect as a 3C. Nemec obviously is the central part of the deal, but you are basically stealing from Paul to pay Peter. The idea is to get a Nemec type player to play with Quinn, not trade Quinn to get a Nemec. What good is Nemec if he is playing with Dermott? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Mercer is a 3rd line winger, we have lots of those types of players. He takes very few draws and is not very good at them, so he is not a 3C. Raty is a better prospect as a 3C. Nemec obviously is the central part of the deal, but you are basically stealing from Paul to pay Peter. The idea is to get a Nemec type player to play with Quinn, not trade Quinn to get a Nemec. What good is Nemec if he is playing with Dermott? He's young, he'll be an NHL C and a good one when hes ready 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Sedin Brothers said: https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Boeser-Trade-coming-in-days-NJ-and-Q-Hughes-e3-Tues-Buzz/1/120545 This is more for the discussion than the source. As a big time Devils fan (who appreciates the Sedin), I'd be willing to give Nemec, Mercer and a first. I think that's fair for both sides. thoughts? Are you David Amber? Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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