JeremyCuddles Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Mustard Tiger said: What's the condition on the first so I don't have to scroll? Please someone Rangers have two 1st rounders (their own and Dallas' 1st), St Louis gets the later of the two. The difference is like 2-3 spots. Unless one of em goes on a cup run. Dallas is 5th and NYR are 7th in the League standings right now. It's one of the dumber conditions I seen. Ngl. They must really value the 25th overall pick over the 28th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, MattWN. said: He's another Garland/Boeser on a team that has way too many passengers who can't drive play. He's another 4.1 million better spent elsewhere, or been weaponized to recoup assets. Maybe that is why Beau is playing with EP. Raise his stock so he can be traded (as a rental) next year for at least a 2nd at the TDL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, N7Nucks said: Rangers have two 1st rounders (their own and Dallas' 1st), St Louis gets the later of the two. The difference is like 2-3 spots. Unless one of em goes on a cup run. Dallas is 5th and NYR are 7th in the League standings right now. It's one of the dumber conditions I seen. Ngl. They must really value the 25th overall pick over the 28th. Or they see the higher pick potentially having more value to make another trade before the TDL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Bad_BOI_pete said: with the addition of mikkola which everyone is sleeping on their defensive depth is also bolstered Yup, and their D was anything but small to begin with Fox at 5'11" and Lindgren at 6'0" is their smallest pairing Good amount of size mixed throughout their forward group as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, stawns said: I don't disagree on his age, but he's still an under sized 10-15 goal scorer on a $4m deal that should have been used elsewhere. I don't remember us ever having a successful reclamation project, and we've had multiple handfuls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: Or they see the higher pick potentially having more value to make another trade before the TDL. Again, the difference is like 2 spots. The value difference is microscopic. Lol. Edit: I don't think they can trade that second 1st rounder prior to the draft. Given it's part of the condition of this trade. What happens if they trade the Dallas first, but that is the later pick? Do they just give up their first? It defeats the purpose of having this condition to begin with. Edited February 9, 2023 by N7Nucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, rekker said: Even if that is the case. He has only a year left and has skills. The potential is there to find his game more so than an aging player. Cap dump? Ok, but I see more potential in him than your typical, older player cap l dump. Not to pick on stawns but he's a MASSIVE horvat fan. He has no choice but to stick to his guns and try and undervalue AB as much as possible. But in reality they have the same amount of points since the trade and that will remain a common theme till we flip AB next year for profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, MattWN. said: I don't remember us ever having a successful reclamation project, and we've had multiple handfuls. and same story as Boeser being a "30 goal scorer", people hanging onto his early success, rather than what he has become Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MattWN. said: I don't remember us ever having a successful reclamation project, and we've had multiple handfuls. You could technically call Markstrom a reclamation project considering we managed to sneak him down to the AHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Rangers have two 1st rounders (their own and Dallas' 1st), St Louis gets the later of the two. The difference is like 2-3 spots. Unless one of em goes on a cup run. Dallas is 5th and NYR are 7th in the League standings right now. It's one of the dumber conditions I seen. Ngl. They must really value the 25th overall pick over the 28th. Thank you kind sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, Mustard Tiger said: Not to pick on stawns but he's a MASSIVE horvat fan. He has no choice but to stick to his guns and try and undervalue AB as much as possible. But in reality they have the same amount of points since the trade and that will remain a common theme till we flip AB next year for profit $4.1m for a 12 goal scorer, rather than having cap pace to weaponize at the dradline or the draft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Did the Blues retain salary on Tarasenko? Or they just prorated it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Did the Blues retain salary on Tarasenko? Or they just prorated it? Capfriendly shows it as 50% retained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, stawns said: I don't disagree on his age, but he's still an under sized 10-15 goal scorer on a $4m deal that should have been used elsewhere. He is a struggling hockey player on a team with some struggling wingers now. For sure. Time will tell where he goes as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Did the Blues retain salary on Tarasenko? Or they just prorated it? They retained 50%, or $3.75 million... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Again, the difference is like 2 spots. The value difference is microscopic. Lol. Edit: I don't think they can trade that second 1st rounder prior to the draft. Given it's part of the condition of this trade. What happens if they trade the Dallas first, but that is the later pick? Do they just give up their first? It defeats the purpose of having this condition to begin with. Maybe microscopic, but still more value nonetheless. If they do make another trade involving a 1st, then it'll be a conditional also in that it'll be the higher of the two 1sts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: Not to pick on stawns but he's a MASSIVE horvat fan. He has no choice but to stick to his guns and try and undervalue AB as much as possible. But in reality they have the same amount of points since the trade and that will remain a common theme till we flip AB next year for profit Yip, this trade deadline, most big contract trades will involve a cap dump. AB is a cap dump I can handle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Maybe microscopic, but still more value nonetheless. If they do make another trade involving a 1st, then it'll be a conditional also in that it'll be the higher of the two 1sts. Sounds convoluted. But it makes sense. I still doubt the trade value is the reasoning. But even if it is, it's dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, stawns said: $4.1m for a 12 goal scorer, rather than having cap pace to weaponize at the dradline or the draft That was an option hey. What's it like just finally waking up and it being 2023 not 2019? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad_BOI_pete Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 it is my understanding that mikkola will make the starting roster, bolstering the bottom pairing and likely steal some pk minutes from their top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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