tas Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Parayko has a NTC, and he's 29 with 7 years left at $6.5. Not sure the Canucks would want to take that contract on. to STL - Brock Boeser and Luke Schenn (to join his bro) to VAN - Ryan O'Reilly and Zach Bolduc O'Reilly's contract ends at the end of the season, frees up $7.5. Canucks also have another real good C developing. couldn't possibly make less sense for either team. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Probably top 12 protected same as ours. No way Rangers fall that low but it’s just to make sure. Looks like the condition is the pick will be the higher of the two firsts (Dallas/NY) that the Rangers currently own. 4th becomes a 3rd if NYR make the playoffs. Edit : Higher not lower. Edited February 9, 2023 by MattWN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Not sure I’d be happy with this return if I were a Blues fan. I know he’s 31 and a pending UFA but look at the season he had last season. If he was traded last deadline he would have gotten a huge haul. What a difference a season can make. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PhillipBlunt Posted February 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2023 Is Hunter Skinner a vegan? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 So is this a good trade for STL?? I think the 1st is only the real value coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: It’s the perfect move for NY. Tarasenko usually gets hot in playoffs.. Going to be some great chemistry with Panarin. But will he have Loui Erikkson - Sedins level of chemistry? Remains to be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 That's a big haul for a rental. A late 1st, B (or maybe C) grade prospect in Skinner, a 4th and a cap dump for a guy who's not even on pace to score 20 goals this year. They must really be banking on his past (and playoff) success but that's a lot to throw away to a guy they may well not re-sign. At least with Bo, he was young, re-signed almost immediately, and is in the midst of a 50ish goal year. Value seems about right all thinks considered. Steep price for rentals this year though, but I wonder if teams almost prefer that compared to taking on long cap deals like Boeser or Miller's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, HKSR said: So what is the final deal? To NYR: Tarasenko Mikkola To STL: Blais Skinner 1st 4th ? There's the value of a UFA rental. We did very well with Bo if that's the case considering how high the NYI pick could be plus Raty (A tier prospect). Same value as tofu with term to Calgary. Granted thats not very recent anymore. Just comes down to desperate gms. Someone will take our wingers in the right scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Shows how valuable 1sts are this year. that is literally all STL cared about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Is Hunter Skinner a vegan? I doubt it, as he would've made it known to the entire world by now. Edited February 9, 2023 by Jester13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, DownUndaCanuck said: That's a big haul for a rental. A late 1st, B (or maybe C) grade prospect in Skinner, a 4th and a cap dump for a guy who's not even on pace to score 20 goals this year. They must really be banking on his past (and playoff) success but that's a lot to throw away to a guy they may well not re-sign. At least with Bo, he was young, re-signed almost immediately, and is in the midst of a 50ish goal year. Value seems about right all thinks considered. Steep price for rentals this year though, but I wonder if teams almost prefer that compared to taking on long cap deals like Boeser or Miller's I don’t see it as that steep to be honest. The first will be the later of theirs or Dallas’ pick so it’s a good bet it will be 25 or later. The rest is just a bunch of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bell Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Panarin-Zibanejad-Tarasenko. That's absolutely terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said: That's a big haul for a rental. A late 1st, B (or maybe C) grade prospect in Skinner, a 4th and a cap dump for a guy who's not even on pace to score 20 goals this year. They must really be banking on his past (and playoff) success but that's a lot to throw away to a guy they may well not re-sign. At least with Bo, he was young, re-signed almost immediately, and is in the midst of a 50ish goal year. Value seems about right all thinks considered. Steep price for rentals this year though, but I wonder if teams almost prefer that compared to taking on long cap deals like Boeser or Miller's Yeah, this is a huge W for St Louis IMO. Tarasenko is more Boeser than Horvat, people are comparing the wrong players here. Keep in mind Tarasenko was basically offered up for free around the league a few years ago, around the expansion draft. Nobody wanted to touch him. The only reason he has any sort of value, is because his contract expires, and St Louis still had to retain 50%. I'd expect Brock at his current points pace to have the same value next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MattWN. said: But will he have Loui Erikkson - Sedins level of chemistry? Remains to be seen. Matt, I actually thought they would have, I probably even stated that they would have here.. in hindsight , I’m shocked to the effort LE gave us. Got his contract , shut himself down, and played safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted February 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2023 Not sure why people believe Skinner to be a B prospect. Guy has 22 games in the ECHL this season. As a 21 year old. Can't even consistently crack the AHL. Seems like a C prospect at best. 1st rounder is the only truly good asset they got. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 minute ago, MattWN. said: Yeah, this is a huge W for St Louis IMO. Tarasenko is more Boeser than Horvat, people are comparing the wrong players here. Keep in mind Tarasenko was basically offered up for free around the league a few years ago, around the expansion draft. Nobody wanted to touch him. The only reason he has any sort of value, is because his contract expires, and St Louis still had to retain 50%. I'd expect Brock at his current points pace to have the same value next year. Except Tarasenko is a proven 30 goal scorer, something Boeser is not. Nobody wanted to touch Tarasenko because of his contract not because of the player. At 3.5 mil that’s a great player to add. A late first is basically a second. This is not some great value when you consider players like Chiarot went for a 1st last deadline. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, SilentSam said: Matt, I actually thought they would have, I probably even stated that they would have here.. in hindsight , I’m shocked to the effort LE gave us. Got his contract , shut himself down, and played safe. Those handful of years were so frustrating to watch.. Only to flip the tail end of that insanely bad contract for OEL. So many kicks to balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Capfriendly showing a 50% cap retention on Tarasenko. So basically Tararsenko at 50% for a late 1st and a 3rd plus long shot prospect. (Blais and Mikkola are a 1-for1). Shows the value of being able to retain salary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: The Dallas pick it is 7 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Not sure I’d be happy with this return if I were a Blues fan. I know he’s 31 and a pending UFA but look at the season he had last season. If he was traded last deadline he would have gotten a huge haul. What a difference a season can make. Yeah, probs bittersweet for Blues fans, had to get something for him though as he's been rumoured to have wanted out for a while Depends on what they do with the 1st I suppose, they're still largely structured as a veteran team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Not sure I’d be happy with this return if I were a Blues fan. I know he’s 31 and a pending UFA but look at the season he had last season. If he was traded last deadline he would have gotten a huge haul. What a difference a season can make. Yep. If we had re-signed Bo last year we'd have him locked down to a 7M x 8 year deal. If we had waited 1 season and signed Miller at the end of this season he'd be on a 7-7.5M deal. I think St Louis had no idea how bad their team was going to be this year and didn't really have a choice to trade him last year in case they were still a playoff team but they bombed hard. Time to rebuild around their young kids the same way the Canucks should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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