Warhippy Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, mll said: He's the most impactful rental still available. Even Carolina was looking to acquire him with them even willing to let him play on his 10M QO next season - SJS informed them last night that they were out. Bratt was eligible for an extension already on 1 January. Their past 2 negotiations have been complicated. Last time around he even refused to negotiate where NJD were presented with only 2 options - either had to pay him long term (he was asking for more than Hughes) or just give him a 1-year. If neither Bratt or Meier are willing to take a reasonable deal they might end up having to decide between the two. NJD is a rather light team up front so they migth prefer what Meier brings despite what Bratt has done so far for their team. Meier, Hischier, Siegenthaler have known each other since they were kids. NJD's window is just opening. Don't really see why he would want to look elsewhere if he can get a reasonable deal. Comes down to futures. What can or will NJD give up now that won't hand cuff the team or will make SJS bite. Given of course SJ won't want to be bag holders after the tdl if they don't move him, but what can NJD give up? Then the question comes down to how will they manage Meier and his next contract as well as the big 4 in NJD? Currently zero cap space as it exists. Palat at $6 million is their lowest paid forward long term but while they may be getting value off of Hughes and Hischier now, Hamilton on the back end eating up a monster amount of cap and him seigenthaler and Marino being their only long term assets it's gonna be a hard hard juggle for NJ to fit Meier in even without worrying about Bratt. Full roster, no real forwards signed after this coming season and those they have deserving solid raises it's gonna be hard to maintain what they have while keeping Meier, even with Nemec Hotlz and Foote in the minors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 @Sharpshooter Called it. And you doubted me. Only a 6 point lead on St. Louis. They are a threat to our draft position. Hopefully Kapanen and Berube calling them out get a response down the stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Comes down to futures. What can or will NJD give up now that won't hand cuff the team or will make SJS bite. Given of course SJ won't want to be bag holders after the tdl if they don't move him, but what can NJD give up? Then the question comes down to how will they manage Meier and his next contract as well as the big 4 in NJD? Currently zero cap space as it exists. Palat at $6 million is their lowest paid forward long term but while they may be getting value off of Hughes and Hischier now, Hamilton on the back end eating up a monster amount of cap and him seigenthaler and Marino being their only long term assets it's gonna be a hard hard juggle for NJ to fit Meier in even without worrying about Bratt. Full roster, no real forwards signed after this coming season and those they have deserving solid raises it's gonna be hard to maintain what they have while keeping Meier, even with Nemec Hotlz and Foote in the minors They can negotiate a different long-term contract and not the $10 mil 1 year deal though .. can't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacholu Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Who's Zach Dean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Can’t wait for the fall of the Knights. It’s going to be a beautiful day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 36 minutes ago, aGENT said: Nothing to do with JT the player or any "lightning rod-iness". I was one of the few people thrilled when we traded for him, and currently his play continues to exceed even my lofty expectations. Entirely to do with what's best for the organization long term. And IMO, that's getting value for him in trade, age alignment, multiplying assets, clearing cap and BUILDING. I get what your saying and agree in part. The part I am concerned about is how this team progresses to the point where they are competitive and how the Core progresses with the type of leadership that he brings. I feel the same way about Schenn. I don't think it would be wise to all of a sudden get rid of this veteran leadership. How old do we want our veteran leadership to be? We do need to find a way to get rid of the other "Veterans" though and I guess that's the big challenge for management. We do need to shed cap and we do need to rid ourselves of players who just don't fit. There is a reason why other teams are asking about Miller and Schenn and they are the same reasons why we should be keeping them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Pretty decent return. Liked his game with Team Canada. He seems like a player that will fit right into their system and excel ... whenever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Devron said: Can’t wait for the fall of the Knights. It’s going to be a beautiful day People keep saying this ... don't see it happening anytime soon unfortunately. They just keep gunning for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Just now, Gawdzukes said: People keep saying this ... don't see it happening anytime soon unfortunately. They just keep gunning for it. Yeah they’ve disappointed me. I thought it would be a a step backwards for them this year 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: People keep saying this ... don't see it happening anytime soon unfortunately. They just keep gunning for it. They are running out of ammo, of not already to keep gunnning for it. They are gonna be a middling team with aged veterans and thin on prospects very soon. Edited February 26, 2023 by rekker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Comes down to futures. What can or will NJD give up now that won't hand cuff the team or will make SJS bite. Given of course SJ won't want to be bag holders after the tdl if they don't move him, but what can NJD give up? Then the question comes down to how will they manage Meier and his next contract as well as the big 4 in NJD? Currently zero cap space as it exists. Palat at $6 million is their lowest paid forward long term but while they may be getting value off of Hughes and Hischier now, Hamilton on the back end eating up a monster amount of cap and him seigenthaler and Marino being their only long term assets it's gonna be a hard hard juggle for NJ to fit Meier in even without worrying about Bratt. Full roster, no real forwards signed after this coming season and those they have deserving solid raises it's gonna be hard to maintain what they have while keeping Meier, even with Nemec Hotlz and Foote in the minors Save for Bratt, their RFAs are bottom of the lineup players with Sharangovich in between. They'll have holes to fill given their UFAs vets but they are also bringing in prospects like Luke Hughes. Mercer is their next big ticket but he's due only next year. Don't see the same issue as you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: They can negotiate a different long-term contract and not the $10 mil 1 year deal though .. can't they? That would be the plan. If he signs his QO he's then UFA. Don't really see why he wouldn't want to be part of NJD long term. Their window is just opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, rekker said: They are running out of ammo, of not already to keep gunnning for it. They are gonna be a middling team with aged veterans and Yeah, we'll see. They seem to have this TB style of somehow always adding when it looks impossible. They also have a good enough core that there farm system guys step in and do the job. That coupled with a stellar defence and star talent is keeping them sustainable. I get what you're saying though ... how long they can keep it goin is anyone's guess. Edited February 26, 2023 by Gawdzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnAntoski Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, mll said: They are still the 2 teams in heavy pursuit for Meier. He's likely to be traded without an extension in place per Friedman. His QO is an off-season issue but not for these playoffs. I hope NJD over pays for Meier but I doubt Fitz will be duped by SJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, kacholu said: Who's Zach Dean? Still in juniors with Gatineau. Listed as a C. Was a 1st round pick in 2021 - 30th overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: @Sharpshooter Called it. And you doubted me. Only a 6 point lead on St. Louis. They are a threat to our draft position. Hopefully Kapanen and Berube calling them out get a response down the stretch. I'd be prepared for #8-10 draft spot, possibly even out of the top 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel the Bure Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Barbashev is two way player, I wish one day Aatu Raty will be playing like Barbashev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mll said: That would be the plan. If he signs his QO he's then UFA. Don't really see why he wouldn't want to be part of NJD long term. Their window is just opening. Yeah, it just makes too much sense. Offer him a long term deal in the 8-9 mil range, and he should fit in real nice to their group. Like you said he's a real heavy player which they could definitely use. Seems like a no brainer. His ties to guys like Siegenthaler and Hirschier is huge too! SJ should be able to milk some good assets on this one. Little bidding war going on. Edited February 26, 2023 by Gawdzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cup_Joneser Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 45 minutes ago, hammertime said: A prospect I love A prospect wish we had gotten A prospect. Those capital A's and the lack of punctuation make's me feel uncomfortable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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