RWJC Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, EdgarM said: .......and haven't we heard this story line before. We got rid of that character. The character of the team is huge and if he does not possess that attribute then I don't want him anywhere near this team anyway. If you are thinking of yourself, before your team? Then its time for you to go. It’s called business. And in case anyone has forgotten, he has chosen to take this team on his back from a very young age. His trajectory has continuously risen in that time too. That’s leadership and commitment to the crest and the culture, but people too soon to forget that. His first responsibility is to himself and his career. This isn’t fighting for your country in war. Agents, endorsements, market variables, etc, he has every right to choose his own destiny. It’s absurd of any Nux fan to think he OWES something to you or the team after all he’s already accomplished. I’m someone who is loyal to a fault and even I can appreciate that. Edited August 31, 2023 by RWJC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, Provost said: Well he is almost 25, not 23. He would be 26 right at the start of next season by the time that proposed trade happened. If the team is bad, and the player won’t sign long term to a reasonable deal… what exactly is your magical answer? Qualify him, take whatever short term arbitration award and watch him walk for nothing as an unrestricted free agent after the 2024/25 season? That is an amazing plan for success! I mean I guess if you want to submarine the team for an even longer rebuild? Maybe we give him $15 million to bribe him to stay so that we can’t afford to surround him with a winning roster? I’m not opposed to trading anyone. Given the mandate publicly endorsed by mgmt, it would be quite the shakeup to see EP traded and how they utilize the assets to reconstruct/retool/rebuild or whatever anyone wants to call it. I just can’t envision them trading him unless things go reallllllly sour. If that is the case though, then put all the cards on the table and let’s move EP, QH and TD and really re-establish a new core and culture. We’ve changed absolutely everything else about this club. It would be a major disappointment but nothing is a certainty in this world and sometimes you just have to make the most out of a bad situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Vegas have absolutely no need for Petey, but for fun's sake... Karlsson + Theodore for Petey? Obviously Miller becomes 1C, Theodore slots in on our top pairing (he can play R or L) and points-wise and cap-wise it's pretty much a wash but we get a lot older so hopefully get a pick back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey Hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Petey, Myers & 4th round pick(any year) to Chicago for Bedard, Seth Jones, 1st round pick in 2024 and a 1st round pick top 10 protected in 2025? I am just talking out my ass, so don’t take it too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Don't care for any of these trade proposals. Having EP on this team is just so important. If he can't be extended he needs to be traded at some point to make the most of an asset. But man, I would be gutted. I really want this young man to stay. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Well JR and co have had 2 off seasons and the team has changed quite a bit. We'll see if their blue line solutions worked. (Hronek, soucy, Cole and buying out OEL) If this doesn't work, Petey isn't stupid. Rebuilding the blue line again will take many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RWJC Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, RWJC said: 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Myers bonus paid tomorrow? trade Saturday ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Chytil, Lundqvist and a 1st… I mean Raymond Ballard and a 1st… no wait 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey Substitute something useful instead of Zacha and then maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: Chytil, Lundqvist and a 1st… I mean Raymond Ballard and a 1st… no wait How about Grabner or Hodgson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey If BOS traded for Petey, it would be to remain competitive. Why would they move their consistently Norris contending Dman, whom is likely to be their next captain, in that scenario ...? 11 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: Myers bonus paid tomorrow? trade Saturday ? I thought Myers bonus was Sep 15? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Water Walker Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Well wonders never cease and guess who looks great in the black skate jersey. I really don't think they are a dark horse but any article on the Canucks from NHL.com is a win for negotiations. https://www.nhl.com/news/over-the-boards-dan-rosen-mailbag-august-30/c-345694588?tid=277729162 GCG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 48 minutes ago, RWJC said: I’m not opposed to trading anyone. Given the mandate publicly endorsed by mgmt, it would be quite the shakeup to see EP traded and how they utilize the assets to reconstruct/retool/rebuild or whatever anyone wants to call it. I just can’t envision them trading him unless things go reallllllly sour. If that is the case though, then put all the cards on the table and let’s move EP, QH and TD and really re-establish a new core and culture. We’ve changed absolutely everything else about this club. It would be a major disappointment but nothing is a certainty in this world and sometimes you just have to make the most out of a bad situation. That was the scenario being discussed. If we are bad again this year and Petterson doesn't want to commit to a reasonably long term deal. (like 4-8 years). In that case we have few options and all the cards are pretty much on the table as far as what paths forward remain. It is basically starting over again from scratch. The plus side is we don't have a lot of long term, unmovable contracts left. With the cap going up, Miller is easily tradeable and for a decent return. The younger players would fetch pretty massive hauls with a mix of young blue chip prospects, high picks, and decent but overpaid veterans on short term contracts coming back to make the money work. I think we are all crossing our fingers that the changes this offseason make a massive difference on the ice and that some young kid just blows the team away in pre-season and earns a spot on the roster displacing a higher paid veteran. It doesn't seem like it is enough to turn us into a contender, but "maybe" to get into the playoffs and win a few games... enough to make Petey think we have a future. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Provost said: That was the scenario being discussed. If we are bad again this year and Petterson doesn't want to commit to a reasonably long term deal. (like 4-8 years). In that case we have few options and all the cards are pretty much on the table as far as what paths forward remain. It is basically starting over again from scratch. The plus side is we don't have a lot of long term, unmovable contracts left. With the cap going up, Miller is easily tradeable and for a decent return. The younger players would fetch pretty massive hauls with a mix of young blue chip prospects, high picks, and decent but overpaid veterans on short term contracts coming back to make the money work. I think we are all crossing our fingers that the changes this offseason make a massive difference on the ice and that some young kid just blows the team away in pre-season and earns a spot on the roster displacing a higher paid veteran. It doesn't seem like it is enough to turn us into a contender, but "maybe" to get into the playoffs and win a few games... enough to make Petey think we have a future. Doesn’t Miller have a NTC for the first 5 years of his contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 53 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if Boston come knocking... McAvoy + Zacha for Petey Not even close man... just looking at Petterson last year and he looked like the season that the Sedins went from baby fat kids to grown men with some strength behind them. He broke out because his body is maturing and he is getting bigger and stronger to go along with his elite skills. I have no expectation that he is going to regress and he has been picked by pundits outside the market to be a top 5 player in the league this year. A 100+ point top line centre with elite defensive ability... he would be the most sought after trade piece in a long time. That while being young and on a currently team friendly contract would make him worth an absolute haul. Boston would want to make a trade that keeps them competitive. They won't want to move a key current roster piece like McAvoy... it would be more like most of their top prospects and 1st round picks for a few years (they already have one traded away in '24 or '25). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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