JeremyCuddles Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: No more drafting Russians please. Just too risky to waste a high pick on a player who might struggle and misses home. Podz has worked out okay, but not great. EDIT: I know VAN never drafted Krapsoft, but he's a young NHL player/prospect. Same dif. I want a NA player with some edge taken with the #11 Leonard Moore Barlow Wood These are the types of players the Canucks could use up front. Gamers who feel right at home. The same sentiments were said about college players when Vesey dipped on his team. Imagine if we passed on Hughes cause he was a college player. Or Boeser for that matter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Worth retaining his rights - he wasn’t quite good enough to stick. Maybe give him one more shot if he has matured in Russia after two seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 This is going to turn into a Tryamkin 2.0 type thread isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Just with how the season played out there is an argument for all 3 as our best player. Regardless a Russian was arguably our best player, and if we have a shot at Michkov at 11 they 100% need to go for it imo. I'd interview him and see how serious he is about coming over, but barring any red flags it's a no brainer if he's still available. He's better than anyone not named Bedard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, canucklehead44 said: Worth retaining his rights - he wasn’t quite good enough to stick. Maybe give him one more shot if he has matured in Russia after two seasons. Agreed. Having the option to sign a 25/26 y/o skilled player in his prime in 2 years can’t be a bad thing. We’ll hopefully be entering our competitive window, and he could be signed for depth scoring fairly inexpensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: This is going to turn into a Tryamkin 2.0 type thread isn't it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksJay Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, stawns said: Are you able to discuss without personal insults? As I said at the time of the trade, Lockwood was the better prospect at the time, but it was a reasonable gamble on VK's potential. It's unfortunate they gave up the better player and a pick and it backfired on them yeah really though, arent there bigger problems than 4th line filler vs failed first round experiment? Like it's nothing to be too upset about We should be upset about the contracts for Boeser, Myers, OEL etc. maybe it's lowered expectations but a Lockwood vs Kravy handwringing seems unnecessary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: maybe it's lowered expectations but a Lockwood vs Kravy handwringing seems unnecessary keeping a handle on things means doing the little things, as well as the big things , right. Not a huge loss- as we have many 4 line type guys; but Lockwood was a 3rd round #64 over all, in 2016. played 28 games over 3 years. Kravtsov was a 1st round 9th over all the 7th rounder is in 2026. None of them are playing for the team. A former 1st, a former 3rd, and a future 7th gone, in return for 16 games as a Canuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: This is going to turn into a Tryamkin 2.0 type thread isn't it? Kravstov isn't tall enough. Size matters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RolexSub Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Bolted back to Russia and most likely he won't return. So that was a crap trade for us. Edited May 23, 2023 by RolexSub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Provost said: Wait, didn’t half the forum have him into our top 6 as a way to make our current cap debacle work out? I guess maybe more guaranteed money in the KHL than what the team was willing to offer in the AHL on a 2 way contract. Doubt it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, spook007 said: Doubt it.... He wasn’t anywhere in my lineup projection for next year… I kept forgetting about him tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Just now, Kenny Powers said: He wasn’t anywhere in my lineup projection for next year… I kept forgetting about him tbh. Not in mine neither... Didn't impress while here, and just couldn't see him get a roster spot.... at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Canuck Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 hours ago, King Heffy said: There's something seriously wrong with a guy who voluntarily gives up a shot at the NHL to play in that barbaric hellhole. Let him rot wit the rest of the orcs. YET AGAIN…..one of the most toxic / negative people I’ve ever come across!!! Maybe seek professional help!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Was worth a look at. Didn't show much while here. Did what was expected and bolted back to Russia. When the going gets tough Kravtsov goes home, how it was with Rangers. Prima-donna attitude without the hard work (hey does sound like Tryamkin). Edited May 23, 2023 by DrJockitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 It's kind of funny. Watching Kravtsov play last season, he struggled, like he didn't really know what to do. My thoughts were: he seemed to refuse to play on the farm team (except for Traktor - get it? Sorry, that was terrible.). Problem was: he just wasn't good enough and needed that development time. I guess him bolting back to Russia kind of solves the problem of what to do with him. That's okay, Hoglander will take his spot next year and show him how it's done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 Very glad we didn’t trade Hoglander for him like New York was insisting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Like others have said, this isn’t that bad a situation. Kravtsov really didn’t look ready for a pencilled-in spot in the NHL lineup. And he was waiver eligible, so no guarantee he clears (although I suspect he would’ve). Parking him in the KHL and then reassessing in two years is fine with me (assuming they qualify him and keep his rights). I’m definitely not expecting much, but stranger things have happened. Maybe everything clicks for him over the next two years in Russia and he becomes one of the KHL’s best players by age 25. At that point, I’d certainly be open to bringing him back over. Or even trading his rights. Edited May 23, 2023 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: I'd interview him and see how serious he is about coming over, but barring any red flags it's a no brainer if he's still available. He's better than anyone not named Bedard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 minute ago, coryberg said: I think most GMs would want to go a little more in depth than just a short sentence or two. I'd also be looking into helping him defect if he's willing to, but you need to contact the player first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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