BC_Hawk Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Maybe it’s time to just let the young guys play and see what we have and adjust next year: Hughes Hronek Hirose Johansson Rathbone Woo Wolanin McWard Move Myers to ARZ or CHI. Could be a tire fire if we go this way though. Need to see the full plan still. It would be a tire fire with all those guys in there. Remember; this was a move PA has made to get to Playoffs next year NOT to pull a Blackhawks. Be prepared to sign Mayfield for 6.5m OR to see our 11th OAL shipped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnstorm Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Roberts said: For.....? Showing up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: I find it hilarious that the Avs and their fans were fine with a $6M Erik Johnson playing on the 3rd pair of their elite Stanley Cup winning roster, but here we are buying out OEL to just have to replace him with another top 4 LHD that will be making at least $5M AAV. So from next year onwards: $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $4.5M dead cap + $5M = $9.5M for replacement defenceman $4.5M dead cap + $5M = $9.5M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman woo hoo... we're SO far ahead now. Maybe next year we get EP d coming in or another young gun. We have a few young D now which for three years should keep the cap down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Good lord. Hey guess we're going FA shopping what could go wrong? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: The have made the playoffs...not been a contender. We are on that same trajectory. I see a lot of upside in that organization. 11 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Gueren was pretty much vindicated... they made the team better. He made the uncomfortable decision and it worked out. theyve made a number of solid moves. just goes to show how much having the right mix of players matters 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Coconuts said: Gross, shades of the Dickinson trade. Should have given him at least another season to see if he could bounce back. It's like looking in that but magnifying it x 10. Now we are going to have to listen to how JB screwed this club for another decade. Allvin better have a plan. And not waste this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, HKSR said: Mayfield and Graves will both go for $5M+. No way a top 4 RHD UFA is gonna sign for $4M x 3 lol Exactly! Mayfield will be 6.5m+ and Graves 5.5m+ in FA. And any decent Low-cost options will choose contenders vs "playoffs please" canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cripplereh Posted June 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2023 Watch tomorrow the NHL gives teams a free buyout and we get burned again . 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rychicken Posted June 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2023 For sale.... $19mil OBO 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 my reaction after being blindsided by this amazing news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, cripplereh said: Maybe next year we get EP d coming in or another young gun. We have a few young D now which for three years should keep the cap down. That'd be the best case scenario. An ELC capable of playing top 4 LHD minutes. That'll eat up the worst years of this buyout. Maybe we move down in the draft to pickup an extra 2nd round pick and draft Simashev in the 1st round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: I find it hilarious that the Avs and their fans were fine with a $6M Erik Johnson playing on the 3rd pair of their elite Stanley Cup winning roster, but here we are buying out OEL to just have to replace him with another top 4 LHD that will be making at least $5M AAV. So from next year onwards: $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $4.5M dead cap + $5M = $9.5M for replacement defenceman $4.5M dead cap + $5M = $9.5M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman $2M dead cap + $5M = $7M for replacement defenceman woo hoo... we're SO far ahead now. Who said we're signing a $5M replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 minute ago, cripplereh said: Watch tomorrow the NHL gives teams a free buyout and we get burned again . If so nailed it! But i have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K PureCool Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Diamonds said: I hate this. It just feels incredibly shortsighted and like a continuation of all the other shortsighted moves the Canucks have been doing the past few years that have almost destroyed this core's chance to ever compete. If OEL is able to bounce back at all after having a fully healthy offseason it's easy to see him get back to a 6M quality player. Instead, in years 3 and 4 we're stuck with a 4.77M cap hit during our best chance to compete before Miller almost certainly declines. In order to replace OEL without actually costing more in cap, the Canucks need to find a player for 2.5M that can play at a 6M level. Good luck. Of course this is not to mention that we're then hit with another 4 years of a 2.13M cap hit after that when he would normally have been off the books. Even waiting one more year to see if he could bounce back would have been a better buyout option. Like I said before, we will be stuck with those $4 million no matter when we buy OEL out and we would have to unless the guy gets long-term injured. We can't have him taking up a roaster spot with $7.2 million cap hit in those two years. Only downside is the 2 additional years of 2mil dead cap but by that time the cap should have gone up a lot that the league minimum would be approaching that number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, cripplereh said: Watch tomorrow the NHL gives teams a free buyout and we get burned again . If that happens, I'll give up on the NHL. I'll just watch the WHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, BC_Hawk said: The have made the playoffs...not been a contender. We are on that same trajectory. Lol right? People keep bringing up Minny. That's nice, lemme know when Minny is a Stanley Cup contender with their dead cap on the books. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Just now, hammertime said: Good lord. Hey guess we're going FA shopping what could go wrong? Doubt it. What is intriguing is that Hannifin is available for trade. His Cap hit is just 5M next season. https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2665194 Add Calgary Flames defenseman Noah Hanifin to the growing list of players that could get dealt this summer. All signs point to the blue-liner not wanting to sign an extension with the club, meaning a trade is likely, according to The Athletic's Pierre LeBrun. Hanifin is in the final season of his contract with a $4.95-million cap hit and can become an unrestricted free agent in 2024. The fifth overall pick in 2015, Hanifin is 6-3, skates well, and is only 26 years old, which could make him an appealing addition for several teams. He tallied 38 points this past season and a career-high 48 the campaign prior. His underlying numbers over the last three seasons have been stellar, buoyed by his excellent 2021-22 campaign. Evolving-Hockey The Flames have several other players who can become UFAs in 2024, including Elias Lindholm, Tyler Toffoli, Mikael Backlund, Chris Tanev, and Nikita Zadorov. New Calgary general manager Craig Conroy said during his introductory press conference that he doesn't want to lose pending UFAs for nothing, as the club did with Johnny Gaudreau a year ago. Pierre-Luc Dubois, Connor Hellebuyck, Alex DeBrincat, and Erik Karlsson are among other players around the league that are expected to be available for trade this offseason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 minute ago, 24K PureCool said: Like I said before, we will be stuck with those $4 million no matter when we buy OEL out and we would have to unless the guy gets long-term injured. We can't have him taking up a roaster spot with $7.2 million cap hit in those two years. Only downside is the 2 additional years of 2mil dead cap but by that time the cap should have gone up a lot that the league minimum would be approaching that number. We can only hope the next few years we have 3 to 4 ELCs playing to make this worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 We were better defensively with OEL out of the lineup no matter who was in there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Pfft ... Bill Gueren says hi with the Parise and Suter buyouts. Not a model I’d be proud to follow if I’m honest. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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