Outsiders Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 18 hours ago, Borvat said: I say let him sit at home. Gives others a chance to get ice time and the Canucks time to make choices. This year more than any other in recent history they have options. Nothing to do with him. But I am a Canucks fan and have been since inception. I cheer for the jersey and not the player when the rubber hits the road. GO CANUCKS GO! Could be a great opportunity for Goldy, if indeed Boeser misses any games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Odd. Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Mackcanuck said: That's depressing to say the least. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket1994 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 40 minutes ago, Mackcanuck said: While in the end he may have no influence, I hope he does! It’s nice to see a teammate / friend put pressure on him to be here. Obviously because he wants him here, but also because he knows the team needs him and he needs the team. In the end it’s about the team and doing well, clearly that’s a big part of what Petey wants. And the best for his Friend as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 When I refer to "hurting the team"...I think it's more that there's a missing piece. They're all golfing today...bonding, laughing...this team building off the ice is important. You go to bat more for someone who's considered a friend as well as a teammate. If you've just had a great time together, that naturally brings you closer together and carries over. Hurting Brock. Because he deserves to be part of this. Seeing him in that picture that was just posted - looking pretty isolated and alone....especially at a time in life where he's enduring some real hills to climb and uncertainty...I just think it'd be better for him to be surrounded by and participating with his brothers here in Vancouver. But I'm being a hypocrite by adding to the drama and discussion, so will just...wait and see. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Honestly I like Brock. A lot. But if he's demanding more than 7 mil it's unjustified. He has 140 games experience over the span of 2 years with a couple of arduous injuries along the way. Also, if he's asking for the contract to be structured like Meier's, that's also unjustified the 2 are not comparable. Meier kills penalties, hits, plays with an edge and he's gritty. They have comparable point totals but that's about it. I don't like how much power RFAs think they have in the negotiations and it all started with the Nylander/Dubas fiasco. Inexperienced GM strong armed into a bad contract, and now that bad contract is having massive ripple effects across the league. I definitely see the league addressing this issue in the next CBA negotiations. And I have a feeling the NHLPA might cave eventually on this matter. All these RFA negotiations are having an adverse effect on the guys who have been in the league longer, paid their dues and have actually earned a massive contract. But a 22 year old kid who has been on the job less than 2 years and is making 6-7mill/year (assuming that's the ceiling Boeser signs for) should not be considered a loss to them or their agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 If I remember correctly the deadline for an RFA is Dec 1, but I really feel it should be Sep 1, way ahead of training camp. I fail to see who benefits from more time than that, but as soon as training camp starts it's kind of a lose-lose scenario. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, J-P said: If I remember correctly the deadline for an RFA is Dec 1, but I really feel it should be Sep 1, way ahead of training camp. I fail to see who benefits from more time than that, but as soon as training camp starts it's kind of a lose-lose scenario. Doesn't apply to Boeser - he can join the team even past that 1 December date. He's not a standard RFA but a 10.2 (c) player with no arbitration rights and who can't sign an offer sheet. Edited September 11, 2019 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Vanuckles said: Honestly I like Brock. A lot. But if he's demanding more than 7 mil it's unjustified. He has 140 games experience over the span of 2 years with a couple of arduous injuries along the way. Also, if he's asking for the contract to be structured like Meier's, that's also unjustified the 2 are not comparable. Meier kills penalties, hits, plays with an edge and he's gritty. They have comparable point totals but that's about it. I don't like how much power RFAs think they have in the negotiations and it all started with the Nylander/Dubas fiasco. Inexperienced GM strong armed into a bad contract, and now that bad contract is having massive ripple effects across the league. I definitely see the league addressing this issue in the next CBA negotiations. And I have a feeling the NHLPA might cave eventually on this matter. All these RFA negotiations are having an adverse effect on the guys who have been in the league longer, paid their dues and have actually earned a massive contract. But a 22 year old kid who has been on the job less than 2 years and is making 6-7mill/year (assuming that's the ceiling Boeser signs for) should not be considered a loss to them or their agents. The Nylander rule? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, IRR said: While in the end he may have no influence, I hope he does! It’s nice to see a teammate / friend put pressure on him to be here. Obviously because he wants him here, but also because he knows the team needs him and he needs the team. In the end it’s about the team and doing well, clearly that’s a big part of what Petey wants. And the best for his Friend as well. Drive. Passion. Goals. I like these things. I will pick up the player that adds more of those things.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: The Nylander rule? They honestly should call it that since they called the cap recapture rule the Luongo rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 boeser sign 7 yr 7mil and be done with it get the season going 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Pure speculation: But I am willing to bet that Brock's side wants a contract that ends on the year he goes UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, xereau said: Pure speculation: But I am willing to bet that Brock's side wants a contract that ends on the year he goes UFA. I'm okay with that freedom for Brock, but his cap hit would be a lot lower then, as a trade-off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: I'm okay with that freedom for Brock, but his cap hit would be a lot lower then, as a trade-off. 5.5x5 = The Bo Horvat standard. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, xereau said: 5.5x5 = The Bo Horvat standard. I would think that dollar amount is the hold up too. Term of five years might have already been agreed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, xereau said: 5.5x5 = The Bo Horvat standard. That probably wouldn't get Bo anymore either. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, xereau said: 5.5x5 = The Bo Horvat standard. I'd like them to do $6.66 X 6 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, aGENT said: I'd like them to do $6.66 X 6 years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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