CanucksJay Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Silky mitts said: 1.5 per year and the team can monitor his cocaine usage Wow. I was leaving the page as I read this and then had to come back to this post and re-read it just to make sure I I didn't misread it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 years. 900k per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, WHL rocks said: 2 years. 900k per year. i'll give him 2 years, 1 mill. But be willing to go up to 1.5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I'd offer 6.5-7...hundred thousand per for 3 yes max to see if there is really anything there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyBoy44 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: In 2 years, he should be worth money And in 2 years if he isn't he doesn't get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P0RKCH0P Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2M / 3 years. Bet you that will look like a deal. This kid would look nice in LA or Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 9 hours ago, Nuxfanabroad said: - insinuations it wasn't JB's 1st choice? Please esplain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2yr/ 1.25-1.75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is a guy that has had issues with commitment. I don't think he has earned the security of a long term contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Like many others, I see a 2 year deal in his future. 1.5-2mil mil might be a tad high for some, but considering what he brings I'd say it's pretty fair. Personally, I think next year he should start to get more chances to prove what he can do offensively. IE give him regular PP time, OT shifts. Stuff like that. We have a 6 foot, 200 pound freight train that skates arguably better than anyone else on the roster. He has a good shot. Something tells me he'd get used as a net front presence though, which I think is a waste of his shot. At the very least he can't be a worse option than some of the players we have on that second unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: Please esplain? No sources..I've read a few posters speculate as much, but who knows whether that holds any water? When lightning strikes with a great pick, prob scads of people would like credit. Similarly the exact opposite(dud selection) must often apply, where no one wants 100% attribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ryan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 years, 5M total. He will be 24 at the end of that. There was an earlier post with two worst case scenarios (either Neely or Sandlak). The one I fear the most is Neely. I don't think Virt will ever be a 30 goal threat. But I do feel that he can become a steady 20-25 goal threat, with good-very good two way play and add a very physical aspect to the team. His speed is almost up there with McDavid, and that is with carrying close to 210 lbs. A physical mature Virt will probably end up around 215, and training will keep the speed there through his twenties. Anyone care to guess how many Dmen will cringe to see Virt coming in at full speed, at that weight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Probably look something like an updated version of this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypocritical Cranium Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The problem with Neely comparison, Cam never scored less than 9 goals in any season in his entire career. Jake hasn't scored more than 9 in his 3 years. Jake will not be Cam. Pay Jake the minimum for the shortest period of time and make him earn it. Trade him once you realize he isn't going to work for the spot you want to play him. His skills are awesome, but if that doesn't translate to top 6 spot you need to only pay him for bottom 6 spot, other wise he has to move one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 For a guy that struggles with consistency and effort level, giving him a comfy long term contract is probably a terrible idea. It just makes it harder for the coach to hold anything over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, Hypocritical Cranium said: The problem with Neely comparison, Cam never scored less than 9 goals in any season in his entire career. Jake hasn't scored more than 9 in his 3 years. Jake will not be Cam. Pay Jake the minimum for the shortest period of time and make him earn it. Trade him once you realize he isn't going to work for the spot you want to play him. His skills are awesome, but if that doesn't translate to top 6 spot you need to only pay him for bottom 6 spot, other wise he has to move one. Neely's hands were a bit banged up (he wouldn't be afraid to 'drop them' and had a ton of fights) so I suspect his goal totals were adversely affected early in his career (Canuck days). Legit light heavyweight fighter - combine that with legit hockey skills gives you one incredible combination (think a lighter Lucic in his prime). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 years 2.5 M in total (1.25 M per year). This is the case where team and the player need each other. The team can certainly use a player that brings speed and size. The player still needs to learn the NHL and team has a roster spot open for him. Worst case, Virtanen will be a third line player. Best case, he will be a complimentary first line player scoring 30 goals like Burrows did with Sedins. I don't see Cam Neely from him quite yet. Maybe he will prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Jake will sign a new contract for 2 yrs at 1.2 million per season..He is making 900,000 now so he will make more then his entry level deal = 1.2 million x 2 yrs.. He will become a very good forward for us with his speed, size and driving to next causing big rebounds.. I really think Jake can be a 18 - 23 goal guy and up to 50 points in a few years.. GO Jake Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If I told you 4 years ago, that this board would now be offering our #6 overall draft-pick $1mil contracts, you wouldn't have believed me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ryan Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Hypocritical Cranium said: The problem with Neely comparison, Cam never scored less than 9 goals in any season in his entire career. Jake hasn't scored more than 9 in his 3 years. Jake will not be Cam. Pay Jake the minimum for the shortest period of time and make him earn it. Trade him once you realize he isn't going to work for the spot you want to play him. His skills are awesome, but if that doesn't translate to top 6 spot you need to only pay him for bottom 6 spot, other wise he has to move one. The comparisons are analogies, not direct. Cam did NOT show very much, if any, of that talent when he was with the Canucks. I don't think even the most ardent "homer" in CDC would expect Virt to EVER score 50, or even 40. Cam scored in the teens here, then exploded in Boston. The fear is that Virt will go somewhere else, become a steady 25 goal scorer and a feared two-way player. Also, bottom six spots, for somewhat established vets, are going for 1.25 to 1.75M per...which seems to be about what the great majority of us are estimating Virt's next contract to be per annum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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