Jim Benning on SN 650 (6/5/2019)

[Rough Neck]

1 minute ago, kenhodgejr said:

 

Nylander Pettersson Boeser 

Pearsons Horvat Marleau 

Leivo Gaudette Granlund 

Roussel Beagle Motte 

 

Edler Stetcher 

Tyramkin Zeitsev 

Hughes Schenn 

Where Eriksson and Sutter? Oh, wait. I see what you did there. 

[Dannydog]

18 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Here it comes guys:

Tanev + Jake for Zaitsev + Marleau + Nylander.

Yuk . jakes going to take another step this year. It may not be a huge one ,but it'll show.Confidence is all this kid lacks. Once he feels he can handle the pushback just watch him soar. Big hits, fore checking hard on terrrified D just trying to clear the puck before that train crushes them. All the turn overs from said forced play will create options for him and line mates alike. Nylander is not worth jake and tanman.

[EdgarM]

2 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:

 

Nylander Pettersson Boeser 

Pearsons Horvat Marleau 

Leivo Gaudette Granlund 

Roussel Beagle Motte 

 

Edler Stetcher 

Tyramkin Zeitsev 

Hughes Schenn 

Soft 3rd line, very soft Top line and Stech and Zeitzev are not Top 4 dmen.

[JM_]

2 minutes ago, EdgarM said:

I don't know how, in any way, that it would make sense to take TO's SCRAPS and bail them out of their Cap trouble to boot. How about everyone wait them out and "steal" their FA's that they are unable to pay. That would be the smart move to make and the most advantageous.

depends on how the pro scouts rate him and where Green and his staff see a fit. If its good for us, who gives two $&!#s if it helps TO or not? 

[JM_]

3 minutes ago, coastal.view said:

well he certainly is slow cooking in terms of his development

the worry is he might not be fully baked till he is 30

and then will be past his peak

but he is an nhl caliber player

which means that so far jb has not missed on any 1st round draft pick

that is important giving the past management 1st round picks

sure but he's still 22, 23 in August. I think he's earned a shot a more top 6 time and if Green gives him that he'll perform as well or better than a lot of the guys in his draft class (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2014e.html). 

[coastal.view]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

sure but he's still 22, 23 in August. I think he's earned a shot a more top 6 time and if Green gives him that he'll perform as well or better than a lot of the guys in his draft class (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2014e.html). 

good to stay optomistic

did you see him play top 6 much last season?

he mostly showed he was not able to handle that level of role

he might need another season of seasoning in a bottom 6 role still

[Ghostsof1915]

Did you start drinking early Alf? 

We don't want garbage from Toronto. 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

 

[CaptainLinden16]

Just now, Alflives said:

 

 

I don't want this to happen.  I'm suggesting this might happen.  It provides a top six F and a top 4 D for JB (not that I agree with those valuations)

The Leafs dump salary to sign their UFA, and to extend Trouba - if they do trade for him. 

Nylander is a playoff ghost and is on a very large long term deal.  To me this looks like three camp dumps for Tanev and Virtanen.  I am left with asking what are the Canucks getting?  Zaitsev top 4 and Nylander playoff top 12?  very curious as to what the Canucks are getting in this deal?

[JM_]

Just now, coastal.view said:

good to stay optomistic

did you see him play top 6 much last season?

he mostly showed he was not able to handle that level of role

he might need another season of seasoning in a bottom 6 role still

kids need a chance to learn and make mistakes, but maybe with 3rd lines coached to be more offensive he can get more chances that way too. 

[JM_]

1 minute ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

 

I don't believe anything this guy says 

[AlwaysACanuckFan]

1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Did you start drinking early Alf? 

We don't want garbage from Toronto. 

In the words of Benning " we are looking at all of our options"

 

 

[guntrix]

Benning’s comments on Zaitsev make it seem like there’s some truth to the rumour. 

[Noble 6]

27 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

if you take a longer look at Zaitsev's time in TO its not the train wreck being suggested, yeah he's overpaid by 1 to 1.5 mil but if we can get an asset back with him it does balance things out. I'm starting to think he'd be a good fit with Edler. Zaitsev was a + player with Gardiner for 2 seasons and Edler would be a big improvement as a partner for him. 

 

All that is fine, but the term in his contract is what does it for me, If he had one two or even three years left on his deal I'd be fine with it. It doesn't sound like there would be much to sweeten the pot if at all from Toronto's end so there won't be a much reward for committing to him for that long and helping Toronto out. 

 

Also, the main reason Zaitsev wants a trade is because of the media in Toronto. He's really not going to any media relief here. We ran Gudbranson out of town this year so if he's looking for a long leash with fans this isn't the spot. 

 

29 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

Zucker

 

 

I don't like Zucker either. I've always thought he was overrated and what he'd likely cost would not be worth it. He scored over 60 points in 2017-18 but has consistently been a 40 point guy and he's making as much as Horvat. He's also barely done anything in the Playoffs in his career. There are better ways we can use our assets, mainly keeping them. 

[48MPHSlapShot]

By Canucks standards this was pretty revealing. Most interesting thing to me is the Tryamkin stuff.

[48MPHSlapShot]

Just now, Horvat is a Boss said:

 

All that is fine, but the term in his contract is what does it for me, If he had one two or even three years left on his deal I'd be fine with it. It doesn't sound like there would be much to sweeten the pot if at all from Toronto's end so there won't be a much reward for committing to him for that long and helping Toronto out. 

 

Also, the main reason Zaitsev wants a trade is because of the media in Toronto. He's really not going to any media relief here. We ran Gudbranson out of town this year so if he's looking for a long leash with fans this isn't the spot. 

 

 

I don't like Zucker either. I've always thought he was overrated and what he'd likely cost would not be worth it. He scored over 60 points in 2017-18 but has consistently been a 40 point guy and he's making as much as Horvat. He's also barely done anything in the Playoffs in his career. There are better ways we can use our assets, mainly keeping them. 

Didn't they ask for Boeser last time? 

[Gollumpus]

51 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Here it comes guys:

Tanev + Jake for Zaitsev + Marleau + Nylander.

The Canucks lose that deal, big time. Heck, even take out Marleau and the Canucks still lose that deal.

 

                                                 regards,  G.

[Guest]

Tanev @ 50% (Add a prospect like Lind?) for Kapanen and Zaitsev 

 

Trade For Zucker (What would it take?) 

 

Zucker - Petey - Boeser 

Pearson - Horvat - Kapanen 

Roussel - Gaudette - Virtanen 

Eriksson - Beagle - Leivo 

 

Edler - Zaitsev 

Hughes - Schenn 

Hutton - Stetcher 

 

Marky 

Demko 

 

Could make a real splash. 

[Ghostsof1915]

If it's Zucker for Eriksson and Hutton, then we've got a deal. Lol. 

[Rob_Zepp]

5 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said:

In the words of Benning "we are looking at all of our options"

 

Not much more he can say and EVERY GM in the NHL would say the same thing.    Still doesn't mean it will generate pages of speculation about what he actually meant and that if you take all of the letters of his statement, add three characters to every fifth one and then translate into binary code and back into one of the machine languages that is randomly assigned each day, you will find the words "Dubas can rot in hell if he thinks I am helping his CAP situation without having a sweet deal for the Vancouver Canucks"