Timråfan Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, khay said: I guess I'm the minority here but I kind of agree with you regarding Loui's quote on trust with Green. It could have been said as he was lamenting on his failure to produce rather than blaming the coach for not trusting him no matter what. Vancouver media and fans are making this a bigger deal that it really is. Players can express themselves and somethings get said in a wrong way or are interpreted in a wrong way especially if it's through a translation and a certain word can carry different nuance depending on the culture. But it's Loui's fault if he didn't call in or answer call or whatever to explain himself to the management/coaches on what he meant. I like Eriksson, wanted him before he signed here. I thought he would be good with the Sedins; I honestly thought Loui could come in and extend the Sedins playing time. But it's too bad that Sedins were well past their prime (who wouldn't be after taking so many cross checks to the back and the refs constantly looking the other way) and Loui was also on the decline. Great to see some sense on this board. The phone call issue wasn't Louis fault. It was Benning blabbering when he should have been neutral. Hence why I talk about the responsibilities being a GM. Louis said in a later interview that he and Green think alike(if my interpretation is correct). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Timråfan said: Great to see some sense on this board. The phone call issue wasn't Louis fault. It was Benning blabbering when he should have been neutral. Hence why I talk about the responsibilities being a GM. Louis said in a later interview that he and Green think alike(if my interpretation is correct). unless you really enjoy arguing I think the Loui topic has been beaten to death. You're not going to change anyone's mind. Of course Loui has real value and and been good in several respects, but he's also not lived up to his contract and here we are. All I'm hoping now is he can be moved somewhere so everyone gets a fresh start, him and the fanbase, its not good for either. 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timråfan Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: unless you really enjoy arguing I think the Loui topic has been beaten to death. You're not going to change anyone's mind. Of course Loui has real value and and been good in several respects, but he's also not lived up to his contract and here we are. All I'm hoping now is he can be moved somewhere so everyone gets a fresh start, him and the fanbase, its not good for either. I represent another view of the situation and as long as one side beat this issue down I will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenman92 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 19 hours ago, 18W-40C-6W said: Yes , he has to clear waivers first but if he does, which he would, they can mutually terminate. No penalties, no cap hit and salary is gone as it’s a mutual decision and the contract is null. The talk from fans about how Eriksson would be okay walking away is insane. Why would he walk away from 9 million dollars over the next three years, when the worst case scenario is he’ll be collecting that money while riding the bus in Utica? Now some will say he can sign with another team after he terminated, but realistically, who is offering Eriksson any more then a two-year deal at 2.5 million per? No one. So fans really think he’s going to leave 4 million on the table just to play another season or two in the NHL...highly doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 37 minutes ago, Timråfan said: I represent another view of the situation and as long as one side beat this issue down I will continue. well, I admire your persistence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, chickenman92 said: The talk from fans about how Eriksson would be okay walking away is insane. Why would he walk away from 9 million dollars over the next three years, when the worst case scenario is he’ll be collecting that money while riding the bus in Utica? Now some will say he can sign with another team after he terminated, but realistically, who is offering Eriksson any more then a two-year deal at 2.5 million per? No one. So fans really think he’s going to leave 4 million on the table just to play another season or two in the NHL...highly doubtful. He seems to believe he’s capable of it (still playing in the NHL) so don’t discount him walking. He’s made close to $50 mil in his career dude, walking away from 9 is 4.5 after tax. If he believes he can sign for 2 years at 2-2.5 per year and not take his family to Utica for three years I’m pretty sure he’d bite the bullet. Money is a lot less important to a guy who’s made 50 mil than you or I https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson Edited July 26, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Man I hope they find a way to dump Loui Lump. Don't care how JB does it as long as it doesn't cost a Good asset along with Loui just to dump him. A b prospect is fine with me. Just get rid of this guy already. It is an un needed distraction. The guy hopefully won't be anywhere near this team 6 weeks from now. At 6m per year he provides NOTHING to this team because of the CAP he sucks out of the team. If he was getting 2m per then keep him for the 4th line and PK. Even then, I would much prefer a guy who is not scared of physical contact. His soft as butter style of play is just not wanted here.....at all.....ever again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick_fan Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) LE haters be like.... Edited July 27, 2019 by Odjick_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Odjick_fan said: LE haters be like.... I don’t understand it, but it still made me laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick29willkillyou Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 41 minutes ago, 18W-40C-6W said: He seems to believe he’s capable of it (still playing in the NHL) so don’t discount him walking. He’s made close to $50 mil in his career dude, walking away from 9 is 4.5 after tax. If he believes he can sign for 2 years at 2-2.5 per year and not take his family to Utica for three years I’m pretty sure he’d bite the bullet. Money is a lot less important to a guy who’s made 50 mil than you or I https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson Tell that to Adrian Peterson lol. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/adrian-peterson-faces-debt-woes-how-athletes-can-botch-their-finances.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kanukfanatic Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, Odjick29willkillyou said: Tell that to Adrian Peterson lol. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/25/adrian-peterson-faces-debt-woes-how-athletes-can-botch-their-finances.html I actually find it hilarious when athletes who have been paid millions of dollars end up scrounging for nickels and going into soup lines. Their own stupidity gets them there. Average people work their whole lives to feed their families. Some of these entitled athlete idiots think they are gods and spend like they are. Then suddenly they are broke. Karma lol. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick_fan Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: I don’t understand it, but it still made me laugh from the movie The Waterboy - supposed to say "I hate him, I hate him, I hate him" while stomping his foot lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Odjick_fan said: LE haters be like.... Be like a guy with an afro on a phone? Huh? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furevanucks Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Most Canucks fans Edited July 26, 2019 by Furevanucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 hours ago, khay said: I guess I'm the minority here but I kind of agree with you regarding Loui's quote on trust with Green. It could have been said as he was lamenting on his failure to produce rather than blaming the coach for not trusting him no matter what. Vancouver media and fans are making this a bigger deal that it really is. Players can express themselves and somethings get said in a wrong way or are interpreted in a wrong way especially if it's through a translation and a certain word can carry different nuance depending on the culture. But it's Loui's fault if he didn't call in or answer call or whatever to explain himself to the management/coaches on what he meant. I like Eriksson, wanted him before he signed here. I thought he would be good with the Sedins; I honestly thought Loui could come in and extend the Sedins playing time. But it's too bad that Sedins were well past their prime (who wouldn't be after taking so many cross checks to the back and the refs constantly looking the other way) and Loui was also on the decline. I've mentioned many times that the comments itself were very mild in nature and doesn't really hurt the relationship between him and the team that significantly. So I do agree that the comments itself are generally overblown by those who already hate the Canucks and want to create drama and those who have been looking for any excuse to get rid of LE anyway. If it was BB or EP that said the same things, Green would be put through the wringer instead. With that said though, I don't think there's any twisting into what he said. He meant what he said. I've concluded this because LE's agent made a statement that it may be best for hockey reasons that he would be moved on. And while Benning couldn't get a hold of LE directly immediately, he has done so eventually and it looks like the direction is to move him. Benning has threatened to send him to Utica if he continues to play his NTC to reject potential trades (which would suggest that there may have been possible deals already that was mixed, with the rumour of the Lucic + Puljujarvi swap being possibly one of them). So there's no beating around the bush in regards to his comments IMO. I thought he would be a good fit with the Sedins as well, but obviously that didn't play out. But this is where people who keep harping about how he got "gifted" plenty of top 6 ice time have been wrong. So he was put with the Sedins, but they were becoming shells of their former selves, so it was hard to say that LE with getting "top 6" time with them. The Sedins had become PP specialists near the end of their career and Boeser took up the prime PP spot with them (rightfully so). LE started last season with EP and people seem to forget that he actually played well with him (maybe because EP was on fire to start and anyone could've done well with him), but he was taken off the line because Boeser struggled out of the gate and never got a chance to be back on the line again. There just seems to be a wide range of perspectives on LE, but a lot of it is misguided with misinformation on both ends of the spectrum (whether from listening to media or whatever or simply choosing to ignore the facts because it doesn't fit their view). So as with most things, it's really somewhere down the middle IMO. I think LE is an effective player in a certain role with some potential to rekindle some offense, but he is indeed overpaid for this role. I don't think he absolutely needs to go, but it looks like the team is ready to move on from him (possibly he's ready to move on from here) and so be it. There's no need to run him down, but also no need to try to defend what he said anymore. If we move him, great, if we don't, we can still ice a team. So we are fine from a team perspective. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longsuffering Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 110 pages and nothing new 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odjick_fan Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Be like a guy with an afro on a phone? Huh? Click on the pic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Odjick_fan said: Click on the pic Why do I have the feeling that I'll regret doing so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Loui, Loui, oh no, I said we gotta go Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I said Loui, Loui, oh baby, I said we gotta go I said we gotta go now Let's get on outta here Let's go! Edited July 26, 2019 by RWMc1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 12 hours ago, Timråfan said: Nah, I just believe the right person should take the blame. But he seem to like what Loui goes through now. The light shines on Loui and people tend to neglect that Benning wanted him. So the person who believed Loui was worth 6 mill is Benning. As with Myers, is he a bust it was Benning that made him come. It's not Meyers fault he got 6 mill. Nobody is taking any blame off of Benning for signing Loui loui needs to be accountable for his play given his compensation. if your position is Loui was given a contract so he can mail it in for 6 years then that’s a sad indictment of your view of accountability 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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